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re: Dash cam video of Philando Castile killing
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:12 pm to rbWarEagle
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:12 pm to rbWarEagle
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And the default step one should not be shrieking and unholstering your gun if the person does something slightly unexpected.
Again, that wasn't step one.
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:13 pm to rbWarEagle
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Agreed. And the default step one should not be shrieking and unholstering your gun if the person does something slightly unexpected.
When there is gun involved you might. A split second is all it takes and you could be dead. In fact, if you watch the video it was maybe 2-3 seconds in between Castile telling the officer ha had a gun and the shooting takes place.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:13 pm to DawgsLife
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His girlfriend said that they smoked weed on a regular basis.
At the time he applied, or after he already had it?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:14 pm to the808bass
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Agreed. BLM is an impediment to real reform. Not a catalyst.
Wish the wealth building AA's who aren't race pimps had time to lead the cause for change instead of the useful idiots that don't care that they are causing more harm than good. We need more sane voices being amplified, not the lowest common denominator who "uncle toms" those with actual sense
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:15 pm to the808bass
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Correct. Just as it's silly to paint Castile as a victim of "Darwinism."
I didn't and I agree. I realize you are aggravated with the other poster. Just remember that he is a troll.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:16 pm to AjaxFury
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Wish the wealth building AA's who aren't race pimps had time to lead the cause for change
Or, weirder still, white people could care about reform and drive it. As long as it's mostly people not like us on the other end of the gun, we aren't likely to care, though.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:16 pm to DawgsLife
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Just remember that he is a troll.
Maybe. Or maybe he's just a horrible human being.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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His girlfriend said that they smoked weed on a regular basis.
At the time he applied, or after he already had it?
From what i read, it appeared as if they had been smoking for awhile. I doubt he got the permit, then just started smoking. However, it is against the law to be smoking a controlled substance while carrying, anyway, so his permit would have been null and void anyway.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:17 pm to the808bass
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Maybe. Or maybe he's just a horrible human being.
Well, there are those out there!
I think MOST people try to be decent, but there are a few horrible human beings out there.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:18 pm to DawgsLife
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From what i read, it appeared as if they had been smoking for awhile. I doubt he got the permit, then just started smoking. However, it is against the law to be smoking a controlled substance while carrying, anyway, so his permit would have been null and void anyway.
Yes, I agree, but stating that he obtained his permit illegally isn't going to help unless it's true.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:18 pm to the808bass
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Or, weirder still, white people could care about reform and drive it. As long as it's mostly people not like us on the other end of the gun, we aren't likely to care, though.
Some have tried, & I know one personally who went to prison trying to help on trumped up charges, but was just cast aside as another disposable tool the liberals used as a pawn for their cause. It's a lose-lose in that situation
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:20 pm to the808bass
More white people are killed by cops than black. It just that most white people will not run around making excuses and play the victim every time someone is shot.
Want to make a difference? How about people like yourself quit crying wolf every time a police action takes place. Step back and look at it. Ask yourself questions other than what race was involved.
Want to make a difference? How about people like yourself quit crying wolf every time a police action takes place. Step back and look at it. Ask yourself questions other than what race was involved.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:20 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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At the time he applied, or after he already had it?
This made me wonder...I wonder how long he had had the permit?
My son just had his third kid, so I am about to have to leave and go to the hospital, or I would look it up...or attempt to. Anybody have time to track that down?
(Wife and I are keeping the other two kids and one is napping. When he wakes up we are gone)
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:22 pm to graves1
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More white people are killed by cops than black.
Maybe because there are more white people?
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Want to make a difference? How about people like yourself quit crying wolf every time a police action takes place.
You don't know if he or anybody else on here is calling wolf. It is a legitimate thing to discuss, and they have legitimate points. You should really try to see other peoples points of view sometimes. You might not agree with them, but it helps to understand them.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:23 pm to rbWarEagle
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No, he doesn't bare the brunt of the responsibility. Sorry, but he calmly and respectfully telling the cop he had a firearm. That's not step one of using it on the cop.
Let me as you something
YOu have a child in a room with a hot stove. you tell the child, do not touch the hot stove, it will burn you.
THe child touches the stove and gets burned, who's mostly at fault?
Why the child who didn't listen to instructions of course.
Same thing here, this guy plainly did not listen to instructions. Is he retarded, or do you expect the LEO to be clairvoyant? The LEO had no idea what he was reaching for, and so you are essentially saying he should have risked his own life by assuming the guy wasn't reaching for a weapon.
I mean you tell me, what should police do when a subject absolutely refuses to obey even the simplest of commands?
Do you not agree that if the guy had sit still he wouldn't have ended up shot?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:24 pm to DawgsLife
I think his girlfriend or someone put out a copy of it. It was a few years old I think, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a renewal.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:25 pm to graves1
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How about people like yourself quit crying wolf every time a police action takes place. Step back and look at it. Ask yourself questions other than what race was involved.
So you're jerking your knee thinking that I think this was about race? Because I don't think it was about race. And further, I don't think every cop shooting is wrong. The vast majority of them are completely justified.
TD Thread from Yesterday on the Sylville Smith Verdict
At some point, you'll have to deal with what I'm actually arguing. Or you can continue to argue with the imaginary voice in your head.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yes, I agree, but stating that he obtained his permit illegally isn't going to help unless it's true.
As I said the article indicated it was true, and i have no reason to doubt it. can I prove it? no. But I can't prove anything we talk about on this board.
Most of the stuff we get so fired up about is based upon media reports, and most of those are colored by opinions these days.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:26 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Your hypothetical is more than irrelevant.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:27 pm to rbWarEagle
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Agreed. And the default step one should not be shrieking and unholstering your gun if the person does something slightly unexpected.
Yep. Cop panicked and escalated a harmless situation.
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