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re: Darrell Issa suffers a Benghazi slap; GOP chair exonerates Obama and Clinton
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:32 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:32 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Ding Ding Ding. Then cover-up said incompetence.
But assuming your premise, then we should NEVER HAVE HAD AN AMBASSADOR THERE !
Anyway you cut it, it was incompetence approaching dereliction.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:39 pm to NHTIGER
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In depth and on point.
Thanks for that post.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:40 pm to Decatur
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How about we put the blame where it rightly belongs...on those who attacked us
You mean all those faceless people in the crowd that have yet to be arrested in the last year and a half. I agree, it would be nice but for some reason they are still faceless.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:41 pm to Rex
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President Obama on the VERY NEXT DAY from the Rose Garden described it as such.
Another Rex LIE. He was not referring to the Benghazi attack. He was regurgitating a speech he had made earlier about terrorism in general. No where did he mention terrorism in relation to Benghazi. And this was proven to you at the time when you lied about then.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:58 pm to MMauler
You're just being deliberately stupid and dishonest. The very reason for the Rose Garden speech was the death of four Americans...
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
It is quite clear to anyone with an honest functioning brain that his narrative there was continuous and that he's including the terrible act of killing the four Americans as an act of terror.
You, however, do not have an honest functioning brain.
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
It is quite clear to anyone with an honest functioning brain that his narrative there was continuous and that he's including the terrible act of killing the four Americans as an act of terror.
You, however, do not have an honest functioning brain.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:01 pm to Rex
You dumb azz,why wouldn't everyone be satisfied with the military, it was not the military that gave the order to stand down.
It was El Bizo Obama.
It was El Bizo Obama.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:28 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
There was no order to stand down, liar.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:29 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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it was not the military that gave the order to stand down.
As I posted, Gibson himself has testified that he was not ordered to "stand down", but to "remain in place", i.e., continue what you are doing, which is not the same thing. And that order was given by Admiral Losey, who with two members of his staff in Germany , actually made the decision.
The failure of the military was in not being sufficiently prepared prior to Sept. 11th, not in their actions, or inaction, on or after Sept. 11th.
As the timeline makes clear, 4 men were ordered not to go to Benghazi, and had they gone as they had planned to, they would not have arrived until after all of those in in Benghazi had already been evacuated to the airport. Their role, had they gone, was only to provide additional security at the Benghazi airport until the last of the Americans departed for Tripoli on the second flight.
Everyone here knows how I feel about Obama, but he played no role in the actual order, which was "remain in place". He had no contact with Defense Secretary Panetta or any military personnel, after approximately 5:30 PM on the 11th through the next morning.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:42 pm to NHTIGER
quote:I don't think there is any doubt here. And I don't have a lot of pain about the being unprepared part. Terrorists are hard to predict. We will never be right 100% of the time. I have very little problem with any of the pre/in action activities.
Everyone here knows how I feel about Obama, but he played no role in the actual order, which was "remain in place". He had no contact with Defense Secretary Panetta or any military personnel, after approximately 5:30 PM on the 11th through the next morning.
It's the after-action antics by the administration I have problems with, and have caused the political circus. All could have Ben avoided by simply being truthful and candid.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:48 pm to Rex
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"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
He said the same exact words in a speech about a week earlier. He was just regurgitating right off the teleprompter.
Another Rex lie that was disproved.
He didn't mention Benghazi once -- IN EITHER SPEECH you f*cking MORON.
And, you can't have it both ways you f*cking hack. If your LIE was true and he was referring to Benghazi, then he was going against the supposed "intelligence" that you now claim he was relying on from the CIA.
So, which is it. Was he lying then or now?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:23 pm to Rex
quote:Didn't one witness before Congress who was the Master over there, Gregory something-or-other, testify under oath that the military was told to stand down when he wanted to send them during the attack?
There was no order to stand down, liar.
I seem to remember that during the testimony.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:00 pm to NHTIGER
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He had no contact with Defense Secretary Panetta or any military personnel, after approximately 5:30 PM on the 11th through the next morning.
This is the part that a lot of people have trouble understanding. I believe the next morning was the day of a fundraiser out in Colorado somewhere that he flew to. The unaccounted for time between 5:30 one day until up into the next morning just doesn't pass the smell test when it concerns being the president of the U.S. and some kind of attack with deaths at an embassy.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:18 pm to Taxing Authority
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It's the after-action antics by the administration I have problems with, and have caused the political circus. All could have Ben avoided by simply being truthful and candid.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:30 pm to LSUnKaty
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Didn't one witness before Congress who was the Master over there, Gregory something-or-other, testify under oath that the military was told to stand down when he wanted to send them during the attack?
I seem to remember that during the testimony.
I addressed this specifically in two posts just above, but I recognize that oftentimes my Benghazi posts are of a length that some choose not to read them and I understand.
During Hicks' testimony he never once used the words "stand down". Those words were used by three congressmen in their questions to him: Rep. Chaffetz, Rep. Turner and Rep. DeSantis. Hicks never corrected their usage of the term, but he never used it himself. Hicks said he did not know (by name) who told Gibson not to go to Tripoli. Hicks never said that Gibson was told to "stand down". However, Hicks, did not verbally, in his testimony, dispute the term. Most believe that Hicks, as a non-military person, viewed the terms "stand down" and "remain in place" interchangeably, and that is why he did not correct those who used the term in questioning him.
The Hicks testimony was about a month before the Losey-Gibson-Ham testimonies before a different House committee that made it clear that the term "stand down" was never used.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:36 pm to MMauler
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He said the same exact words in a speech about a week earlier. He was just regurgitating right off the teleprompter. Another Rex lie that was disproved. He didn't mention Benghazi once -- IN EITHER SPEECH you f*cking MORON.
You truly are a hopeless idiot. Where did those four Americans to which he was referring die? We all knew he was talking about deaths in Benghazi; he didn't have to speak the word.
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If your LIE was true and he was referring to Benghazi, then he was going against the supposed "intelligence" that you now claim he was relying on from the CIA.
No, he wasn't, birdbrain. As the CIA, itself, reminded us... a terrorist act could have been prompted by the video or could have been pre-planned without it or could have been prompted by both. Nothing there is mutually exclusive.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:48 pm to Rex
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There was no cover-up.
HOLY frickING shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that Jay Carney and Susan Rice stating that the attack was about some piece of shite video serves as a cover up......quit being a dumbass
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:54 pm to MMauler
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He didn't mention Benghazi once -- IN EITHER SPEECH
For the record, Obama did say the word "Benghazi" four times in his 9/12 rose Garden speech.
He chose to use the term "acts of terror" in that same speech, rather than "terrorist acts".
That same evening, in a Las Vegas campaign speech, he again used the term "act of terror" and avoided using the word "terrorist".
The following morning (the 13th), in a morning campaign speech in Golden, CO, he again used the term "act of terror", and avoided the word "terrorist".
The morning after that, the 14th, at the transfer of remains ceremony, Obama chose not to use the word "terror" or terrorism" or terrorist.
At that same event, Hillary Clinton said, "We've seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We've seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with." She also quoted the president of the Palestinian Authority who described the killings as "an act of ugly terror".
The young man who stabbed 20+ individuals at a school in Pennsylvania last week committed an "act of terror", though he was not a "terrorist".
Any deranged person, in fact, can on their own commit an act of terror, with no agenda, no reason, no cause - the characteristics that define a terrorist.
The Candy Crowley debate fiasco centered completely around the "act of terror" vs, "terrorist act" descriptions.
It's not a matter of semantics, it's a matter of intent and Obama chose to use "act(s) of terror" for political reasons.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:01 pm to infantry1026
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I believe that Jay Carney and Susan Rice stating that the attack was about some piece of shite video serves as a cover up.
That was the info the CIA gave them.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:03 pm to Rex
So CIA info given to Obama , good..... CIA info given to bush, bad..... Amirite ??
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