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re: Daily Show obliterates opposition to state level Medicade expansion

Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:04 pm to
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Link?


LINK
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:06 pm to
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you think government is the solution when it is shown over and over again to be the problem


government is a problem in this country but only because of the corporatocracy, a cancer that will only expand in the post-citizens united years. So in a sense I am a conservative in that I do believe that government should be broken down until the bogus capitalist corruption can be eliminated or at least neutralized.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:07 pm to
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Link?


LINK



So, this prevents some citizens from obtaining an education?
Posted by Malik Agar
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:08 pm to
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"government should prevent an immoderate, and especially unmerited, accumulation of riches." -Jefferson

The more medicare/big government stuff we get, the more IMMODERATE/UNMERITED rich people we get. DC siphons from the masses and pools it into the pockets of elites.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:08 pm to
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government is a problem in this country but only because of the corporatocracy

another function of expanded government. proving my point

kill the head and the body will die. reduce government and crony capitalism cannot exist

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that government should be broken down until the bogus capitalist corruption can be eliminated or at least neutralized.

that's an oxymoronic statement

you can only eliminate the power of corporations by removing their vessel (government)

as long as government is powerful, it will serve their interests. there is no way around this. the only solution is smaller government
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:09 pm to
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So, this prevents some citizens from obtaining an education?


it's an expressed desire by some citizens to worsen the educational opportunities for students who weren't born in the right part of East Baton Rouge Parish.

AKA, picking winners and losers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:10 pm to
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it's an expressed desire by some citizens to worsen the educational opportunities for students who weren't born in the right part of East Baton Rouge Parish.



That doesn't support your statement.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:10 pm to
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another function of expanded government


not every country has this issue so i explicitly reject the idea that it's an inevitable function of government.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:10 pm to
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it's an expressed desire by some citizens to worsen the educational opportunities for students who weren't born in the right part of East Baton Rouge Parish.

i don't think it would affect the money or teachers for those "not born in the right part" of EBR
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:11 pm to
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That doesn't support your statement.


it does, actually.

your understanding of my previous statement is another discussion.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:11 pm to
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How many of you even watched the video? serious question.


I watched it and gave cliffs to those that didn't watch it.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:13 pm to
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"government should prevent an immoderate, and especially unmerited, accumulation of riches."


Regardless of the veracity or context of this quote, what is the relevance of it regarding the subject at hand?

I honestly need an explanation as to how this quote is relevant to my post, which was that regardless of the source, be it federal or state, Medicaid is healthcare provided for free via tax paying citizens.

I am perplexed.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:15 pm to
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I am perplexed.


Sounds like a you problem. Everything I posted is completely clear. You can disagree with all of it and that's fine, but to say it's confusing just doesn't hold water.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:17 pm to
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That doesn't support your statement.


it does, actually.


Not at all.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:22 pm to
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it's an expressed desire by some citizens to worsen the educational opportunities for students who weren't born in the right part of East Baton Rouge Parish.


So......


School are derivative of their communities and reflect the good or bad of their communities. An area with a poor tax base and a multitude of virulent social problems will inherently have poor schools. The social problems in said community will also cause quality teachers choosing not to teach at these schools resulting in these schools having the bottom of the barrel teachers.

Bad schools are the fault of the people that live in the communities in which the bad schools exist and the cycles they create.

No amount of money will rectify that.
Posted by League Champs
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:38 pm to
You do know the Daily Show is a joke, right?


Oh, I just read thru the thread, and sadly you dont. Perhaps you missed this little item on the front page of the thedailyshow.com?
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"Was there ever a fear of warts in that relationship? Did you ever fear that you would get, uh, lets say - trichinosis?" John Stewart asking Kermit the Frog about his relationship with Miss Piggy. February 13, 2001

That is some hard hitting political journalism right there
Posted by stuntman
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:39 pm to
The premise of his argument was that Medicaid won't cost a dollar for the taxpayers of those states.

DS, can you explain to me how the federal government footing the bill for Medicaid will cost taxpayers of those states "zero dollars"?

Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:44 pm to
He can't.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:44 pm to
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DS, can you explain to me how the federal government footing the bill for Medicaid will cost taxpayers of those states "zero dollars"?



I think he took that satire literally. Everyone knows the fed's generosity has a time limit. In this case, it's til 2020
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:46 pm to
im bookmarking this thread for next time some lib says the ds is comedy and not to be taken seriously
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