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re: Crippling Unions Democratic support...
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:48 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:48 pm to WeeWee
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Right-to-work laws do not aim to provide general guarantee of employment to people seeking work, but rather are a government regulation of the contractual agreements between employers and labor unions that prevents them from excluding non-union workers
Sounds like a nondiscrimination rule....
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No question.
I see it at work every day. It's been my experience elsewhere as well.
My point is, the Union could negotiate labor in exchange for assured quality and serve a useful purpose. They not taken that approach, but they should.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So the guy must be a communist.
All he/she is doing is posting old arse posters. So I am going to go with Heather's dumber alter.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:58 pm to NC_Tigah
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My point is, the Union could negotiate labor in exchange for assured quality and serve a useful purpose. They not taken that approach, but they should.
In my opinion, unions work best today in the construction trades with journeyman workers. Standards aren't as compromised and the union acts as an agency and defacto employment agency.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In my opinion, unions work best today in the construction trades with journeyman workers. Standards aren't as compromised and the union acts as an agency and defacto employment agency.
They certainly have benefits for some people.
Doesn't make them a good deal for everyone. That's why individuals should have options.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:03 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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They certainly have benefits for some people.
Agree, it's just that the scope of people who benefit seem to be getting smaller and smaller.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They protect the crappy worker.
Unions can't protect crappy workers, if you're not good at what you do then companies that use union workers will send your arse back to the union and you will be unemployed.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:29 pm to TrueTiger
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Public sector unions need to be abolished.
Abso-ficking-lutely
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:31 pm to WeeWee
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I happen to care about the future of the United States.
Right to work laws are the future of the United States.
It is already a banana republic. "right to work' is part of the dysfunction.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:33 pm to BigD13
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Unions can't protect crappy workers
I see it on a consistent basis.
Unions protect the lowest producing employees at the expense of those who are high achievers.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unions protect the lowest producing employees at the expense of those who are high achievers.
How exactly would that work?
If that were true, there would never have been unions.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unions protect the lowest producing employees
As a 20 year union member I truly have never seen this in my trade. Believe me if you're a crappy employee you will never get the opportunity to even get to try and operate a crane. Ive seen hundreds of crappy employees get sent packing. Unions can't make companies keep employees that companies don't want.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:03 pm to BigD13
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Unions protect the lowest producing employees
As a 20 year union member I truly have never seen this in my trade.
It's a bullshite non-true statement. Some people want to push that because they think 'right to work' laws will help keep out people they would rather not associate with.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:28 pm to BigD13
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As a 20 year union member I truly have never seen this in my trade. Believe me if you're a crappy employee you will never get the opportunity to even get to try and operate a crane. Ive seen hundreds of crappy employees get sent packing. Unions can't make companies keep employees that companies don't want.
This may be the case in construction with trade unions, but it is not with workers in manufacturing for large corporations.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:36 pm to Asgard Device
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What are some other instances where Republicans feel it is their duty to restrict freedom of employers in order to "help"
workers?
Well?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:40 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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How exactly would that work?
If that were true, there would never have been unions.
You're either 12, or a Union rep.''
What do you do for a living?
Most unions base wages and advancement on seniority, not merit. The construction trades have a much different structure.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:41 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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It's a bullshite non-true statement. Some people want to push that because they think 'right to work' laws will help keep out people they would rather not associate with.
Why would people not want to associate with workers? I don't associate with slackers, if that's what you mean.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:48 pm to Asgard Device
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Well?
Your original question makes no sense. This does not restrict the ability of any employers to enter into agreements with unions.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:50 pm to EA6B
Most people have either forgotten about or they are too young to know what utter crap American made cars were before the influx of Japanese imports forced improvements in quality.
What does that have to do with the fact that unions priced their own commodity out of the market and forced jobs overseas.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:54 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Some people want to push that because they think 'right to work' laws will help keep out people they would rather not associate with.
??????
How does having the right to opt out of union membership keep other people out? That doesn't even make sense.
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