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re: Could Hillary's Iraq War Vote Cost Her The Nomination Again?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Fact is, the Iraq war was a success.
You completely discredited yourself with this statement. I have to say, Rand Paul really has his work cut out for him if he has to win over folks like you, who think W's Iraq War was a success.
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:24 pm to trackfan
Anyone considering her as President needs to think about the meaning of this term:
Commander in Chief
Commander in Chief
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:28 pm to fleaux
He was on the Committee on Homeland Security and the Committee on Foreign Relations.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:42 pm to trackfan
If Hilary wins I just picture Bill pulling up to the White House, leaning over to secret service saying
"I keep getting older, they stay the same age"
"I keep getting older, they stay the same age"
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:47 pm to trackfan
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He was on the Committee on Homeland Security and the Committee on Foreign Relations.
For about a year before he started running for President.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:57 pm to trackfan
It had nothing to do with W or Reagan. It was the fact that someone's one vote issue was the Iraq War for Clinton yet Obama only had two years of what is commonly considered legit experience before running to be President.
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:00 pm to Libertyabides71
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For about a year before he started running for President
Actually he had been a U.S. Senator for 2 years, and 1 month before he started running for President, and before that he was an Illinois state senator for eight years. Based on your comments, I take it that you've ruled out voting for Rand Paul or Ted Cruz in 2016, since they will both have less political experience than Obama if they decide to run for President.
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:02 pm to trackfan
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You completely discredited yourself with this statement.
How so?
Do you deny that one of the primary goals of the Iraq War was to remove Saddam from power and set up an elected government?
ETA: And I hope RP is the next President, so if he's in trouble it's not from me.
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:03 pm to Colonel Flagg
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It had nothing to do with W or Reagan. It was the fact that someone's one vote issue was the Iraq War for Clinton yet Obama only had two years of what is commonly would be considered legit experience before running to be President.
But we only had two choices, there wasn't third choice. What part of that do you not understand?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:07 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Do you deny that one of the primary goals of the Iraq War was to remove Saddam from power and set up an elected government?
I reject the premise that it served America's interest to spend any blood and treasure to remove from power regardless of what kind of WMD he had. Iraq is a war that Republicans should be as ashamed of as Democrats are ashamed of Vietnam. Both of these wars are low points in American history.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:12 pm to trackfan
So I can't find it funny that someone's only reason for picking Obama over Clinton was because of that one vote and Obama was a nobody with relatively no experience.
Obama was basically running this campaign
Obama was basically running this campaign
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:17 pm to trackfan
She isn't going to be the next President.
But if by some minor miracle she does win, I dare her to announce at her first press conference that she's putting Bill in charge of foreign affairs.
But if by some minor miracle she does win, I dare her to announce at her first press conference that she's putting Bill in charge of foreign affairs.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:24 pm to Colonel Flagg
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So I can't find it funny that someone's only reason for picking Obama over Clinton was because of that one vote and Obama was a nobody with relatively no experience.
Let me ask these two questions one more time.
1) What choice did anti-war Democrats have in 2008 besides Obama?
2) Are you equally amused by right-wingers who are touting Rand Paul and Ted Cruz for President in 2016?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:32 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:That was the ONLY reason for the Iraq war. All the rest was just BS.
Do you deny that one of the primary goals of the Iraq War was to remove Saddam from power and set up an elected government?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:39 pm to trackfan
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I reject the premise that it served America's interest to spend any blood and treasure to remove from power regardless of what kind of WMD he had. Iraq is a war that Republicans should be as ashamed of as Democrats are ashamed of Vietnam. Both of these wars are low points in American history.
Yet a Democrat signed the Iraqi Liberation Act? Democrats were pro Iraq until the economy started growing in early 2004 and Howard Dean got popular.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:42 pm to trackfan
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Let me ask these two questions one more time.
1) What choice did anti-war Democrats have in 2008 besides Obama?
2) Are you equally amused by right-wingers who are touting Rand Paul and Ted Cruz for President in 2016?
Not call for withdrawl when the Surge was showing signs of actually working?
Democrats in 2008 were pretending like it was still 2006.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:43 pm to Libertyabides71
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Yet a Democrat signed the Iraqi Liberation Act? Democrats were pro Iraq until the economy started growing in early 2004 and Howard Dean got popular.
I don't know what you're talking about since it's obvious from this thread that I don't give Democratic warmongers a pass, and since W is a Republican, not a Democrat.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:46 pm to trackfan
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I don't know what you're talking about since it's obvious from this thread that I don't give Democratic warmongers a pass, and since W is a Republican, not a Democrat.
Its funny how liberal's can't remember their own history. Iraq was a bipartisan issue until the Democrats realized they had nothing to run on in mid 2004.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 11:03 pm to trackfan
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1) What choice did anti-war Democrats have in 2008 besides Obama?
I would never create a single vote issue like the situation we are discussing. I wouldn't consider the information we knew about Obama enough to properly compare the two on the issue.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 3:38 am to trackfan
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You completely discredited yourself with this statement. I have to say, Rand Paul really has his work cut out for him if he has to win over folks like you, who think W's Iraq War was a success.
So dipshit, tell us what the world would be like now if the Iraq was had never happened. You can't, therefore you can't prove it was a bad idea.
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