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Conflict Expert on Possible Trump Win: Thousands Could ‘Storm White House’

Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:18 am
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:18 am
I've never known anyone in federal law enforcement (except Border Patrol agents), much less Secret Service, but aside from the likelihood of the scenario presented in the article, how many people would it take for an armed insurrection to actually "storm the White House" and force President Trump to flee?

What I mean by that is:

1) At what point would the Secret Service/National Guard Troops simply refuse to fire on those attacking the White House? If they were faced with the possibility of having to shoot and kill hundreds, or potentially even thousands of American citizens, would they simply refuse to do that?

2) At what point would they simply be overwhelmed by sheer numbers? Again, I don't know how many Secret Service personnel may be in the White House grounds at any given time, but assuming SS were the ONLY LEOs on site, if two to three THOUSAND people surrounded the White House and started tearing down the fence/gates, would the SS even be able to prevent that?

Just curious from some of y'all who may have better knowledge of this type of thing if the worse case scenario came to pass.

Thousands Could Storm White House On Election Night - Breitbart

quote:

J. Michael Waller, an expert on strategic communication and unconventional conflict and vice president for government relations at the Center for Security Policy, said at a webinar with reporters on Wednesday that federal officials should be prepared for violent mobs on the streets of Washington, DC, that could attempt to attack the White House if President Donald Trump is victorious in winning a second term.

“We have to prepare for these mobs by the tens of thousands if not more right in downtown Washington, DC … and storm the White House,” Waller said.


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Waller compared the Black Lives Matter Plaza set up under Bowser’s leadership to the kind of staging areas used to conduct massive anti-government coups in places like Eastern Europe and Iran that he has studied in the past. Waller said:

They need a staging area that’s right close to the seat of power. What Mayor Bowser has done now for half a year is she has cut off a prime commuter avenue — 16th Street NW in Washington, DC,— with high end hotels and the headquarters of the AFLCIO and other big unions — from a block north of the White House on the other side of Lafayette Park … extending the length of three football fields.

“It remains a closed-off staging area armored with concrete barriers,” Waller said.


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Waller said Trump should federalize D.C. police to enhance security around the White House.

“[Trump’s] first duty as president is to protect the presidency as an institution and when you have organized violent groups saying that they are going to lay siege to the White House — burn it down,” Waller said, “the president has to treat that very seriously.”
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:20 am to
Once a few live rounds go flying they will flee.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78648 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:20 am to
Patriots need to FLOOD DC and stay there between election night and inauguration. Not kidding. It needs to be our movement. Let's not abandon our nation's capital to the violent mob.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:20 am to
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Conflict Expert on Possible Trump Win: Thousands Could ‘Storm White House’


That would make them traitors and anarchists. Mow them down, dig a huge hole, and then hold a mass burial.
Posted by lsufan1971
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:21 am to
quote:

At what point would the Secret Service/National Guard Troops simply refuse to fire on those attacking the White House?


They would repel all boarders. It would be a massacre. The WH is the most heavily and well armed Houses in the world. No doubt in my mind the SS would kill anyone going over the fence.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 10:22 am
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62442 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:21 am to
The only problem if this happens, dead people are more reliable Democratic voters......
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7197 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:22 am to
That’s a great way to get yourself killed. Go for it! That their battle cry of “Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee” fill the night.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:23 am to
Certainly they’ve had a plan for something like this for 100 years.

How long would it take to break through every layer of security and into the White House?

Surely there would be enough time to get the President into the secret tunnel and halfway to where it comes out under the floor of Thomas Jefferson’s favorite slave mistress’s quarters at Monticello.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:23 am to
If Trump ask for his supporters to defend him, millions will show up and protect him.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:24 am to
This would be pretty funny to watch.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:25 am to
quote:

They would repel all boarders. It would be a massacre. The WH is the most heavily and well armed Houses in the world. No doubt in my mind the SS would kill anyone going over the fence.


I hope you are right. I agree that once a few people go down, the rest would lose courage quickly.

It is crazy to even think this might be plausible, but the Dems have their low information voters so riled up to believe Trump is worse than Hitler, killed 200k people from COVID, and is a traitor to the country vis a vis Russia that there may be enough mentally unstable people to actually do this on election night or in the following days once it sets in Trump won (of course, in their mind he will have "stolen" the election with the help of "foreign interference").
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

No doubt in my mind the SS would kill anyone going over the fence.

People have gone over the fence without getting killed before so
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:26 am to
They wouldn't have to fire on people if they didn't want to. They have less-than-lethal means to disperse large crowds if necessary.

But the answer is they would do whatever is necessary to keep them from storming the White House and it would take many, many thousands of people to make it even somewhat feasible.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22533 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Once a few live rounds go flying they will flee.

Exactly

You wouldn’t even have to shoot them, just shoot at the ground and most of those losers would shite their pants.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:27 am to
The left would stand on all those dead bodies on the WH lawn to spout off more insane bullshite
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9200 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:28 am to
There job is to protect the United States against all enemies. Foreign and Domestic.

If the White House is attacked by citizens simply because the President is elected by American Citizens who think differently then they are domestic terrorists and the SS has a duty to defend the White House and Presidentt to the death. So they should kill every single one of them who steps foot across that fence.

But I have a feeling that there is tear gas that can deploy from under the ground and create an almost impenetrable cloud of gas that no e would want to walk through.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48953 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:29 am to
I can't believe someone actually wrote that article
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9509 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:30 am to
I would use one of those military sound weapons personally. The crowds would not be able to handle that and would get the hell out of there fast.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
1799 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:30 am to
About 30 seconds of mini gun fire might dampen their enthusiasm
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24980 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:31 am to
more fear porn from the Dems
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