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Comey "There is no such thing as absolute privacy in America"
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:51 pm
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All of us have a reasonable expectation of privacy in our homes, in our cars, and in our devices. But it also means with good reason, in court, government through law enforcement can invade our private spaces,” Comey said. “Even our memories aren’t private. Any of us can be compelled to say what we saw. …
In appropriate circumstances, a judge can compel any of us to testify in court on those private communications.” “There is no such thing as absolute privacy in America,” Comey said, because “there is no place in America outside of judicial reach.”
BTW..
quote:
“You’re stuck with me for another 6 ½ years,”
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:52 pm to Jjdoc
Sounds like he's lecturing a political science class.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:52 pm to Jjdoc
I don't like him but he's not wrong. Privacy is dead.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:54 pm to Jjdoc
Why hasn't this a-hole been kicked to the curb yet? He's the most incompetent director in the Bureau's history.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:54 pm to Jjdoc
Someone needs to read him the 5th amendment.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:55 pm to Jjdoc
I had hoped this mentality died with scalia...
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:55 pm to Jjdoc
NSA outsourced a lot of the things they were doing to CIA since Snowden. We aren't the only country with these capabilities.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:56 pm to Jjdoc
That's one arrogant MF'er.
After pride. The fall.
After pride. The fall.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:59 pm to Jjdoc
This is the problem with the concept that we can trust these agencies to police themselves.
Their jobs are fundamentally at odds with freedom. They spend all day trying to figure out new ways to access information and then come up with justifications for it.
Frankly. They wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't.
But that imperative is exactly why you can't give them a fricking secret court and then rely on then to stay within reasonable parameters.
You might as well ask a wolf to hang out in a room full of sheep and follow rules for not eating them
Their jobs are fundamentally at odds with freedom. They spend all day trying to figure out new ways to access information and then come up with justifications for it.
Frankly. They wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't.
But that imperative is exactly why you can't give them a fricking secret court and then rely on then to stay within reasonable parameters.
You might as well ask a wolf to hang out in a room full of sheep and follow rules for not eating them
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:02 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Their jobs are fundamentally at odds with freedom. They spend all day trying to figure out new ways to access information and then come up with justifications for it.
Frankly. They wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't.
But that imperative is exactly why you can't give them a fricking secret court and then rely on then to stay within reasonable parameters.
You might as well ask a wolf to hang out in a room full of sheep and follow rules for not eating them
Exactly.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:02 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
I don't like him but he's not wrong. Privacy is dead.
No right is absolute but that doesn't mean Obama and the Dumocrats can make up an excuse to violate President Trump's right of privacy.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:04 pm to Jjdoc
Sounds like someone is establishing an out, when the investigation heats up
"A presidential candidate in this era, cant expect absolute privacy" anyone?
"A presidential candidate in this era, cant expect absolute privacy" anyone?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:05 pm to MrCarton
What we've come up with in terms of having the IC effectively police itself is about like having a court system where the prosecutor is also tasked wroth the providing the defense.
Then being surprised the prosecutor cheats
Then being surprised the prosecutor cheats
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:10 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
In appropriate circumstances, a judge can compel any of us to testify in court on those private communications
5th amendment?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:11 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
What we've come up with in terms of having the IC effectively police itself is about like having a court system where the prosecutor is also tasked wroth the providing the defense.
Then being surprised the prosecutor cheats
That's exactly right. It's absurd.
the key to all of this is scaling back the ICs scope of operations. That has to happen before any meaningful change will occur.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:13 pm to Jjdoc
Yep, Comey is right.
The genie has been out of the bottle for a long long time.
The average US citizen has not had 'absolute privacy' for the last 40, maybe 50 years. Could even go further back than that.
Read up on some the spying techniques that were employed during WWII.
There are spy satellites that can read the numbers on your license plate from hundreds of miles in space.
I posted this on the Movie/TV board from the show 'Hunted':
EVERY piece of mail is scanned and put in a data base somewhere that is easily accessible by LE/Feds.
EVERY phone call, land-line and/or cell phone is easily traceable.
Last info I found on cell phones:
* There are over 300,000 cell towers in the USA, and another 600,000 'micro' sites nationwide.
*EVERY cell phone(burner phones included) 'pings' cell towers every 7 seconds, registering their location to within 150 feet.
* Your cell phone company keeps a record for EVERY search you make and EVERY web-page you visit. They keep this info on file for a year(if not longer).
* AT&T has location info back to the year 2008.
* Same for your ISP, they have EVERY e-mail, EVERY web site you have visited on file for a long time.
*Same for your bank and credit/debit cards. They have EVERY transaction you have on file.
* There are lots and lots of CCTVs EVERYWHERE that can be accessed by LE & the Feds very quickly.
The list goes on.
Bottom line, you are being watched & recorded, and this info is keep on you for a long time.
The genie has been out of the bottle for a long long time.
The average US citizen has not had 'absolute privacy' for the last 40, maybe 50 years. Could even go further back than that.
Read up on some the spying techniques that were employed during WWII.
There are spy satellites that can read the numbers on your license plate from hundreds of miles in space.
I posted this on the Movie/TV board from the show 'Hunted':
EVERY piece of mail is scanned and put in a data base somewhere that is easily accessible by LE/Feds.
EVERY phone call, land-line and/or cell phone is easily traceable.
Last info I found on cell phones:
* There are over 300,000 cell towers in the USA, and another 600,000 'micro' sites nationwide.
*EVERY cell phone(burner phones included) 'pings' cell towers every 7 seconds, registering their location to within 150 feet.
* Your cell phone company keeps a record for EVERY search you make and EVERY web-page you visit. They keep this info on file for a year(if not longer).
* AT&T has location info back to the year 2008.
* Same for your ISP, they have EVERY e-mail, EVERY web site you have visited on file for a long time.
*Same for your bank and credit/debit cards. They have EVERY transaction you have on file.
* There are lots and lots of CCTVs EVERYWHERE that can be accessed by LE & the Feds very quickly.
The list goes on.
Bottom line, you are being watched & recorded, and this info is keep on you for a long time.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:18 pm to Jjdoc
Have to quit Facebook and message board lol
Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:20 pm to MrCarton
quote:
the key to all of this is scaling back the ICs scope of operations. That has to happen before any meaningful change will occur.
It's funny because in the late 70s early 80s, I was taught as a child about how awful the various surveillance states of the world were.
shite. If a Soviet KGB officer from 1980 traveled forward in time and met our IC, the KGB guy would go home and tell America to frick off with their judgmental attitudes!
Then, he'd tell his KGB how they aren't nearly ambitious enough!
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:21 pm to ShortyRob
Boom Shorty.
Two arguments:
1) Power corrupts based on how much power one gets.
2) The more power you have, the power you have to do good.
The truth there are more number ones than twos.
Two arguments:
1) Power corrupts based on how much power one gets.
2) The more power you have, the power you have to do good.
The truth there are more number ones than twos.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:26 pm to Jjdoc
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“Even our memories aren’t private. Any of us can be compelled to say what we saw. …
This guy needs to resign for this comment alone. Has he not heard of the 5th amendment?
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