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re: Comey "He did not order me to let it go".... and that ends that.

Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54213 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:46 pm to
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Comey said that Trump's words alone aren't an order


This is called a fact.

quote:

but that Trump's words in context were.


This is called conjecture. Look up the definition.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48447 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:47 pm to
As I said before, i point it out because ignorant and disingenuous democrats, like you, parade around chanting "obstruction, obstruction". I also usually say if the actions alleged by the left are true (which they aren't) it still isn't obstruction. You think that means I'm having an argument over whether the alleged actions are true? Yikes.

As for me being ignorant of a president being prosecuted...you are correct it has never been decided. However it was fully briefed in the United States v Nixon case. It was argued. Chief Justice Burger wrote that it was not necessary to address that question in order to resolve the executive privilege issue, which was the issue before he court. So while it has never been done in the past, the Supreme Court has also never ruled on the arguments. So instead of trying to claim others are ignorant of what procedures are legal and which aren't. Perhaps do a little more research next time.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13499 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Comey said that Trump's words alone aren't an order, but that Trump's words in context were. Not hard to comprehend

Actually not.
Under Di Fi questioning, Comey admitted not being able to comprehend Trump and not understanding his nonverbal communications!
He THOUGHT that there MIGHT have been pressure. He would not unambiguously state that Trump actually pressured him with an order. He said it was up to his friend the independent investigator to decide!

Notice that under Democratic questions he would imply an order, but denied a clear order under Republican questions.

He is the amazing plastic man with an anti Trump bias!
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4440 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:53 pm to
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Responding to a question from Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., who asked if he considered it a "order" to drop the investigation, Comey said yes.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39509 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:55 pm to
So we've gone from "trump is a Russian double agent" to "trump may have potentially suggested that Comey stop the Flynn investigation"? Even if he did, he was legally within his rights to do so.

And for the snowflakes, the remedy remains the same: impeachment.

And you have the nerve to call republicans partisan?

You all look like fools today.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4440 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:56 pm to
You're so salty. Life would be better if you learned how to laugh at yourself

The President was never going to be charged on this nor was he going to be impeached on this. This is pure politics and is yet another day where Trunp's political capital took a hit. But I'm sure you can be proud of yourself for making the argument that Trump may have technically not broken the law when he shut down the investigation into Flynn
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:08 pm to
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You are scrambling so desperately to get something on Trump. You need to "let it go".

Is that an order?

(It sounds like an order}.


(Was that a code red? If I asked the other 450 marines stationed at Guantanamo, would they say it was a code red?)
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26824 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:32 pm to
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is yet another day where Trunp's political capital took a hit.


Yet a flock of conservative judges were just nominated. Things are going quite swimmingly, regardless of your perception.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:36 pm to
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Context matters.

Does Loretta's "matter" matter?
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4440 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:42 pm to
Of course Trump is going to get some stuff done - he's still President with a Republican Congress. Trump's done quite a bit on the deregulation front - that hasn't been discussed enough.

But day after day of self-inflicted wounds has sent his popularity into a nose dive and with it his ability to strong-arm Congress into passing meaningful legislation. Look at the health-care bill as an example. Now Comey's on TV calling the President a liar and saying that Trump tried to stop an investigation into Trump's guy. That looks bad to average Americans. His poll numbers will continue to suffer and he won't be able to threaten to campaign against Congressmen if they don't fall in line. So they won't andnot much will get done.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26824 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:46 pm to
So deregulation, conservative judges and no new legislation?

Sounds like Valhalla for a small government guy like me.

Nothing I like more than a gridlocked legislature. The less they do, the better.
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