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re: Colleges Rattled as President Obama Seeks Rating System

Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:46 pm to
Obama is just trying to see just how much shite he can wreck before his 2nd term is done.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:46 pm to
The frickin givt showering everybody with loans is why the colleges are so frickin expensive now.

A govt rating system won't be about excellence. It'll be whether the let transgenders pick their bathroom and how many quotas are on campus and probably everything but whether or not anybody learns anything useful.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:49 pm to
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So no loans for any private programs for health professions?


No federal loans. You would be free to get a loan from a private bank at an appropriate interest rate. Costs would go down over time and the compensation market would adjust accordingly.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6562 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:53 pm to
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Mr. Obama and his aides say colleges and universities that receive a total of $150 billion each year in federal loans and grants must prove they are worth it


This isn't about students... it's about cherry-picking which institutions receive the most federal grant money.

Next they'll say that the ratings system also assigns higher scores to schools that graduate higher percentages of minorities and women.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:54 pm to
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The problem is acute, they insist: At too many schools, tuition is going up, graduation rates are going down, and students are leaving with enormous debt and little hope of high-paying jobs.


Every one of these problems is a direct result of government interference at various parts of the education process.

And they want to help fix it with more government interference.

Brilliant!!!
Posted by titmouse
a tree branch above your car
Member since May 2006
6355 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:55 pm to
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No federal loans. You would be free to get a loan from a private bank at an appropriate interest rate. Costs would go down over time and the compensation market would adjust accordingly


Revenue for many of these schools are completely tuition driven. They will simply shut down, and the private clinics that they typically sponsor them for free ( because it is mission-driven) will then charge significant amounts of money to permit clinical rotations, thereby increasing public university tuition for these programs to a extent in which those administrators would likely consider dropping those programs all together.


This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:01 pm to
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The rating system is in fact a radical new effort by the federal government to hold America’s 7,000 colleges and universities accountable by injecting the executive branch into the business of helping prospective students weigh collegiate pros and cons.

ask and you shall receive, intellegista
Posted by titmouse
a tree branch above your car
Member since May 2006
6355 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:02 pm to
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Next they'll say that the ratings system also assigns higher scores to schools that graduate higher percentages of minorities and women.


That is the conundrum. How does one create a system that would allow SUNO to remain viable?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:38 pm to
frick this.


Seriously, frick it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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422393 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:40 pm to
so you're calling this the flesh light of policies?
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23060 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:57 pm to
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Mr. Obama and his aides say colleges and universities that receive a total of $150 billion each year in federal loans and grants must prove they are worth it.
for two more years. he ain't president forever.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15695 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:22 pm to
If this goes through, it should definitely be called "No College Left Behind."
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:26 pm to
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“Applying a sledgehammer to the whole system isn’t going to work,” said Robert G. Templin Jr., the president of Northern Virginia Community College. “They think their vision of higher education is the only one.”




For a definition of 'chickens come home to roost' see above.


Bring on the sledgehammer!
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62410 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:42 pm to
So, to reign in colleges that puts kids out with degrees in an economy that is stagnant from liberal policies, we going to get some more liberal justice.... WTF will they think up next???? :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:45 pm to
Ole Miss fricked
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:48 pm to
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I think the unneeded Dept. of Education is looking for another unneeded program to help boost their reason to exist.
This right fricking here.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63266 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:22 pm to
We support government rating elementary and secondary schools. What's the big deal?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18066 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:25 pm to
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We support government rating elementary and secondary schools. What's the big deal?




Grade inflation and cheating, for starters.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:25 pm to
Most of the academic community will find a way to support this.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:26 pm to
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We support government rating elementary and secondary schools
We do, who is we? Kill the Dept. of Ed.
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