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re: Chick-fil-A sandwich too controversial for Cali High School
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:22 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:22 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
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sammich
This is one of the dumbest words anyone has ever come up with in an attempt to alter a real word. You should never use it again.
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:24 pm to The Third Leg
I'll use sammich if I want to and you will DWI. I give zero fricks what you think. 
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:26 pm to The Third Leg
What about sumbitch, as in don't be a sumbitch?
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:27 pm to L.A.
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I have a keen interest in North American Indian culture. I must say I had never heard about gay marriage among North American Indians. Do you have any links to some references on this subject? I'd love to read them.
From Wiki:
In North America, among the Native Americans societies, same-sex unions have taken the form of Two-Spirit-type relationships, in which some male members of the tribe, from an early age, heed a calling to take on female gender with all its responsibilities. "In many tribes, individuals who entered into same-sex relationships were considered holy and treated with utmost respect and acceptance," according to anthropologist Brian Gilley.[44]
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:29 pm to Robin Masters
quote:As you perceive and define it. Everyone opposed to gay marriage is scared of gays? It's all rooted in fear?
Homophobia is a fear.
quote:Well this is just false. Think about that for two seconds. That's why we distinguish between fear and irrational fear. And not all opposition to the legitimacy of homosexuality is irrational.
Fears are rooted in ignorance.
quote:I'm all for the gay agenda trying to change people's minds. Have your protests and blogs and lectures and lobbying groups and ads and impassioned pleas. Put it to a direct vote or through our elected representatives. That sounds great to me. It seems the CRM changed a lot of people's minds. It seems most of us whitefolk these days don't go around oppressing the black man, and agree with equality. See this is where the comparison falls apart. The gays haven't changed minds. They're just being fascists about it.
Ignorance can be changed through experience...advanced as you called it.
If it isn't homophobia then what is it? Just so much loyalty to traditional marriage? Like skinheads don't hate blacks and je
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:33 pm to genro
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As you perceive and define it. Everyone opposed to gay marriage is scared of gays? It's all rooted in fear?
Yes. And I asked for your alternative theories and received nothing.
quote:
Well this is just false. Think about that for two seconds. That's why we distinguish between fear and irrational fear. And not all opposition to the legitimacy of homosexuality is irrational.
Pretty well established that fear is based in ignorance. Not really that debatable.
quote:
'm all for the gay agenda trying to change people's minds. Have your protests and blogs and lectures and lobbying groups and ads and impassioned pleas. Put it to a direct vote or through our elected representatives. That sounds great to me. It seems the CRM changed a lot of people's minds. It seems most of us whitefolk these days don't go around oppressing the black man, and agree with equality. See this is where the comparison falls apart. The gays haven't changed minds. They're just being fascists about it.
I thought we had evolved past the point of one group of people needing to prove that they deserved equal rights. Apparently not.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:38 pm to Robin Masters
quote:No, it's not. Please just think in common sense terms. Right now you are ignorant to the man hiding in the bushes. When he jumps out with a knife to attack you, your fear will be based in realization, the exact fricking opposite of ignorance.
Yes. And I asked for your alternative theories and received nothing. Pretty well established that fear is based in ignorance. Not really that debatable.
quote:We've already covered the basic fallacy of marriage as a "right".
I thought we had evolved past the point of one group of people needing to prove that they deserved equal rights. Apparently not.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:39 pm to The Third Leg
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This is one of the dumbest words anyone has ever come up with in an attempt to alter a real word. You should never use it again
What about "fgt". As in you are a gigantic whiny fgt. Shut up.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:43 pm to genro
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No, it's not. Please just think in common sense terms. Right now you are ignorant to the man hiding in the bushes. When he jumps out with a knife to attack you, your fear will be based in realization, the exact fricking opposite of ignorance.
No you are afraid because you are ignorant to what is in the bushes. Once you find out there is nothing in the bushes you are not afraid. If the man is in the bushes you afraid because you are ignorant to how to defend yourself. Once you know how to defend yourself you are not afraid. It is you who need to use common sense.
quote:
We've already covered the basic fallacy of marriage as a "right".
Link?
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:46 pm to Robin Masters
quote:I know of no large societies who have legitimized homosexuality and continued to thrive long-term, with regards to population and economic growth, family stability, and overall conditions. Do you? We just don't know.
there is nothing in the bushes you are not afraid.
quote:Previous few pages.
Link?
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:51 pm to Robin Masters
quote:Which Native American tribes would those be?
In North America, among the Native Americans societies, same-sex unions have taken the form of Two-Spirit-type relationships,
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:57 pm to genro
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I know of no large societies who have legitimized homosexuality and continued to thrive long-term, with regards to population and economic growth, family stability, and overall conditions. Do you? We just don't know.
Ok, so you are afraid that homosexuality will bring the downfall of our society. Thanks for admitting that.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:59 pm to L.A.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:32 pm to Robin Masters
quote:Yes, I guess. To some degree. I have concerns. And I've already proven that many fears in themselves are valid. So would you like to discuss the validity of those fears based on economics, history, etc? Or would you like to just say "anyone who is scared of anything is a bigot"?
Ok, so you are afraid that homosexuality will bring the downfall of our society. Thanks for admitting that.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:47 pm to genro
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Yes, I guess. To some degree. I have concerns. And I've already proven that many fears in themselves are valid. So would you like to discuss the validity of those fears based on economics, history, etc? Or would you like to just say "anyone who is scared of anything is a bigot"?
Equal rights for around 1 or 2% of the population or the fact that 60-70% of our population are bigoted busybodies who despite their love of their country loathe actual freedom...care to guess which one scares me more?
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:52 pm to Robin Masters
Are you under the illusion that a certain percentage of the population is just "born gay" and that's that? Because that also has zero basis in genetics, biology, evolution, sexology, history, anthropology, etc., etc. It'd be great if it were true, but it's not.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:58 pm to genro
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Are you under the illusion that a certain percentage of the population is just "born gay" and that's that? Because that also has zero basis in genetics, biology, evolution, sexology, history, anthropology, etc., etc. It'd be great if it were true, but it's not.
I doubt all gay people are born gay and I don't care. It's not really my business. Why does it matter? They want to commit to a person they love. Why is that such a big problem for you?
Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:59 pm to Robin Masters
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doubt all gay people are born gay and I don't care. It's not really my business. Why does it matter? They want to commit to a person they love. Why is that such a big problem for you?
Because it's icky
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:00 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Because it's icky
I try not to think about it. But yes, yes it is.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:03 pm to Robin Masters
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I try not to think about it. But yes, yes it is.
It's hard not to think about it. The gays always gotta rub it on your face.
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