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re: Canadian Doctor Owns Republican Senator
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:31 pm to Machine
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:31 pm to Machine
quote:So are you saying that when it comes to fixing the world's problems, we should look to private citizens instead of government?
lol, but who are you going to trust, a conservative senator or a medical professional?
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:32 pm to MSMHater
quote:there's a fine line one must tow between being a good doctor and being a good Team R lapdog
You mean the doctor with (R) by his name?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:33 pm to Ebbandflow
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Well they have better Healthcare and they have better education so...
What they have is the benefit of favorable demographics for education, and a neighbor who just happens to lead the world in health innovation.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:33 pm to Ebbandflow
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You wont wait too long.
Harvard Study
So a few things.
1) lack of health insurance has never been the cause of death.
2) How many of these people in the study, of their own free will, refused to pay for health insurance?
3) How many of these people were on medicare/medicaid or some other form of governmental medical assistance? All this study compares is people with private insurance vs. not private insurance.
4) How many of these people sought insurance and a doctor and were refused? How many were accepted but didn't want to pay?
Lots of holes in this cherry picked study.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:33 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
So are you saying that when it comes to fixing the world's problems, we should look to private citizens instead of government?
that's a hell of a jump
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:35 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:
“The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:36 pm to Machine
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there's a fine line one must tow between being a good doctor and being a good Team R lapdog
I won't argue that. But there is plenty of disagreement in the medical community re: how to provide care to insinuate a single physicians opinion is worth any more than another physicians opinion.
Just like the general population, they vary in opinions on single payer V multi payer V P4P V concierge V value added contracts, etc...
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:37 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:
Bernie is Right
If only Bernie were President
But he isn't
No healthcare for you
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:39 pm to Ebbandflow
Well the overwhelming amount of retards is the exact reason we are a republic and not full democracy. Cant let you morons mob rule. Or we'd have no history, no money, and certainly no healthcare when the money runs out.
More people support getting free shite than are against it?!?! Wow, who would have ever guessed. Forget real tangible examples of what actually happens in these types of healthcare system, thats completely irrelevant when compared to feelings and people wanting free stuff.
More people support getting free shite than are against it?!?! Wow, who would have ever guessed. Forget real tangible examples of what actually happens in these types of healthcare system, thats completely irrelevant when compared to feelings and people wanting free stuff.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:39 pm to Machine
quote:Nah, I think you just showed why Conservatives are (typically) for smaller government. We believe that government is run by bureaucrats who are far removed from the real problems average citizens face and are ill-informed and ill-equipped to manage issues appropriately and without wasting precious resources. In other words, the private sector is better able to address most issues in an efficient way. Using your statement about the doctor vs. the politician was just my way of making that point.
that's a hell of a jump
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:41 pm to The Maj
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They do? Must be limited access then, given all of them taking medical vacations to the U.S.
You are aware that a lot of Americans find their way into Canada for for health-related reasons, right?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:43 pm to LSUnation78
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More people support getting free shite than are against it?!?! Wow, who would have ever guessed. Forget real tangible examples of what actually happens in these types of healthcare system, thats completely irrelevant when compared to feelings and people wanting free stuff.
Why does the UK have such a better system?
Number one.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:44 pm to Ebbandflow
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Harvard Study Finds 45,000 Americans Die Annually From Lack of Healthcare
How many Americans die each year that have Health Insurance?
How many of that "45,000" would still have died were they adequately insured?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:46 pm to Ebbandflow
Try linking something not from the commonwealth fund which has blatant biases
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:55 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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What they have is the benefit of favorable demographics for education,
When you value education in your Society the demographics and quality of life become better. Ignorance begets ignorance and Care begets care. You ever think of that?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:56 pm to Ebbandflow
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Why does the UK have such a better system?
If everything is better everywhere else then why in the frick are you here?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:57 pm to MrLarson
Hint: Cause its not
Posted on 9/22/17 at 1:01 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:They don't. I've got relatives over there that rave about how great it is because they think it's free. Because they don't spend any money at the point of service, they think it's fine to have long wait lines for anything more than a flu shot. They assume that's just how it is and are fine with the lower quality of healthcare they receive because of the social benefits they perceive in it.
Why does the UK have such a better system?
One of my relatives died of a rare knee cancer in Scotland because the doctor decided it would be better to drain fluid for a few years instead of ordering any advanced diagnostics to be performed. By the time they actually checked him out, they found the cancer had spread all over his body and he died a few months later. Whoops... but at least he didn't have to pay out of pocket
Posted on 9/22/17 at 1:07 pm to Ebbandflow
Where exactly did she own the senator, and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't care if he has an R by his name? All I heard were suppositions, anecdotes, and some deflection.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 1:10 pm to Ebbandflow
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Ebbandflow
You're being an idiot.
Not because you don't have a valid opinion, and not because the sources you use to reinforce it are ineffective.
You're an idiot because you undermine your ability to persuade others by continually insulting them and using snarky, self-aggrandizing language. It is the fundamental mistake the left is making all over the place. Hillary would have won if she had just stopped insulting the independents who were even considering Trump.
This is why Trump's approval has not fallen below to 40-ish threshold. MANY of the people who consider another candidate or express disapproval in a poll are reluctant to do so because then they validate the insults being thrown at them from the idiots on the left. They feel like that if they back down, they are admitting that they were, indeed, being racist, ignorant, unsophisticated, etc.
If you people would just stop with the insults and blanket condemnations, you might actually win over the people in the middle who do have reservations about Trump. But, no, you just keep shouting at the die-hards and calling them names. The middle will not come to you for that, so just keep digging your holes.
And this also goes for some of the idiots on the right who are convinced that anybody who questions Trump is a "cuck", a socialist, or whatever perjorative you want to use.
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