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re: Can we just agree that this was the fate of the Malaysian flight?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:00 pm to Choctaw
Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:00 pm to Choctaw
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are saying its harder to find a private plane in the jungle then a larger plane in the ocean?
I'm saying that it's a different scenario. These planes that you say went missing are not commercial airliners, they're tiny planes. I'm just making sure that we establish there is a difference.
Listen, there is more evidence that it kept flying than it crashed.
But you're free to think it crashed.
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:07 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Listen, there is more evidence that it kept flying than it crashed.
so you're saying it actually landed somewhere
Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:07 pm to Choctaw
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so you're saying it actually landed somewhere
What I said wasn't in code.
There is more evidence that it kept flying.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:28 pm to Lsupimp
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Is it possible to land a 777 softly in open sea?
I've read that it's basically impossible.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:30 pm to moneyg
quote:I will smooth out as soon as the motors depart the wings.
I've read that it's basically impossible.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 3:43 pm to Lsupimp
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Is it possible to land a 777 softly in open sea?
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A Boeing 777 is designed to be capable of ditching safely on the water and stay afloat. That is why there are 8 slide rafts in the aircraft capable of accommodating more than 300 passengers in the event of a safe ditching on the sea.
How long will the B777 stay afloat on the water will depends on many factors. Firstly, there must not be substantial damage on the aircraft body to cause massive leaks. Secondly, the ditching must be properly executed (it is possible to do so) and the impact with the water surface must be reduced sufficiently to that of a normal landing profile. The sea condition must also be reasonably smooth.
According to Boeing, if the Boeing 777 ditching is properly handled with an optimum center of gravity and normal gross weight, the airplane should come to a rest slightly nose high on the water. The forward doors should be about four and a half feet and the aft doors be about two and a half feet above the water. At high gross weight, the aft doors may be less that two feet.
After ditching, an undamaged Boeing777 will stay afloat for a fairly long time - something like a drifting boat on the sea (see story below).
It will float
FWIW, I talked to my brother who just retired from Am. Airlines and he said a plane with fuel in the wings would actually help the plane float because of jet fuel being lighter than water. He also said there is no fuel dump capabilities on a 777.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:05 pm to anc
It was snakes.
On the plane.
Mutha Fukka.
On the plane.
Mutha Fukka.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:14 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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What I said wasn't in code.
There is more evidence that it kept flying.
this doesn't answer my question.....did it or did it not land somewhere? its a simple question.
"evidence that it kept flying" doesn't mean anything. it kept flying til it hit the water.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:20 pm to anc
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UPDATE: We reached out to a couple of 777 pilots to ask what they thought of this theory. They were skeptical. They said the first course of action on a "smoke and fumes" checklist is to put on an oxygen mask — even before turning the plane toward a runway.
So they write an article...THEN fact check it with 777 aviation experts only to conclude this was in fact a stupid theory they posted...
Then they leave said dumb theory online? Nice.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:31 pm to theunknownknight
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So they write an article...THEN fact check it with 777 aviation experts only to conclude this was in fact a stupid theory they posted...
They didn't write it. This was a Google+ blog entry written a couple of days ago that went viral.
From the article:
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A few days ago, a former pilot named Chris Goodfellow articulated an entirely different theory on Google+.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:36 pm to RollTide1987
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They didn't write it. This was a Google+ blog entry written a couple of days ago that went viral.
From the article:
Ummm...they summarized it, posted it and then said:
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The pilots' houses have been searched. Terrorist connections have been investigated. Passenger backgrounds and possible motives have been scrutinized. And still, 10 days after the plane disappeared, we know nothing.
Perhaps that's because we're overthinking it.
A few days ago, a former pilot named Chris Goodfellow articulated an entirely different theory on Google+.
This theory fits the facts.
And it's one of the most plausible yet:
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This theory fits the facts. It makes sense. It explains the manual course change as well as the "pings" that a satellite kept hearing from the plane. It requires no fantastically brilliant pre-planning or execution or motives.
The pilot write all that too?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:41 pm to Homesick Tiger
Your brother must have been a ticket taker, a 777 can and does dump fuel LINK
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:04 pm to theunknownknight
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theunknownknight
The theory is the pilot's. I don't know about the other shite you quoted. I just remember reading this pilot's theory last night.
It's a good theory but it discounts the fact that the left turn was pre-programmed and also the fact that oxygen masks were available to the pilots as per current and former Boeing 777 pilots. Also...a fire intense enough to knock out all the vital systems would have brought the plane down in a matter of minutes. We know it flew on for almost 8 more hours after it disappeared from radar.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:05 pm to RollTide1987
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The theory is the pilot's. I don't know about the other shite you quoted. I just remember reading this pilot's theory last night.
That other stuff I posted was part if the article you stated was never written.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:08 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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I find that article offensive, it's a blatant disregard to basic intelligence.
As is your continued ability to post on this site.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:10 pm to Choupique19
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Lots of planes crash in the ocean, and it takes a few days to find the wreckage, none of them go down without air traffic controllers having no idea what body of water they are even located in.
Heard a retired 777 pilot on Limbaugh today. He believes that pilot went to ditch the plane, flight ensued with co-pilot, that's when it went up to 45,000 ft.
Said he thinks pilot subdued co-pilot, and then took it down into the ocean. He said that at that speed, they will never find a trace of the crash.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:13 pm to theunknownknight
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That other stuff I posted was part if the article you stated was never written.
I was talking about the theory.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:15 pm to redandright
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He said that at that speed, they will never find a trace of the crash.
United 93 took a nose dive into the ground going at speeds topping 500 MPH and huge chunks of wreckage were flung hundreds of yards into the woods.
There would be pieces left.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:19 pm to RollTide1987
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United 93 took a nose dive into the ground going at speeds topping 500 MPH and huge chunks of wreckage were flung hundreds of yards into the woods.
There would be pieces left.
There's a big difference between the two. It's called the fricking ocean.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:21 pm to BruinsWoo
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Your brother must have been a ticket taker
Nope. You're right though and so was my brother. I was wrong. I got my numbers mixed up . The 757 cannot dump its fuel.
You get an A for research.
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