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California has fallen further: now recognizes third gender, on birth certificates 2019

Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:12 am
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:12 am
CBS News article

Will have the new gender on birth certificates starting in 2019.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:19 am to
On the other hand, it is a great way to identify the mentally ill.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45710 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:28 am to
That is fricking insane.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29034 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:31 am to
This country has fallen to an all time low. Can't imagine what it will be like in 50 years.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18716 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:33 am to
Poor kids.
Posted by TrueTiger
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67692 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:34 am to
If gender is a decision thing,

how does one converse with a newborn to ask it what it decided?

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:38 am to
quote:

If gender is a decision thing,

how does one converse with a newborn to ask it what it decided?


My first thought as well. This law makes no sense by the very logic they used to pass it.

What's going to happen is parents are going to decide for the child what their gender identity is. If the family has a fricked up view of gender identity and imposes that on the child...

California's mental health industry should be giddy about this.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
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14916 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:42 am to


I think it's designed for people to make the decsion later in life but I don't know what would stop a couple of kooky parents from identifying their child as a third gender.

Almost certain that's a gender neutral critter gestating inside mommy.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14786 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:48 am to
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f gender is a decision thing, how does one converse with a newborn to ask it what it decided?


I'm sure some parents out there will mark non-binary or whatever at birth but I imagine this 3rd option will come into play for people who down the line as adults want to amend the birth certificate. I think it's bonkers, but I imagine that's what they had in mind when they drafted this.
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:50 am to
Wouldn't this create a high climate for malpractice in California for the delivering Dr?
If I were to be the delivering Dr in California, I would call the gender at birth based on scientific evidence and chart the gender in both mother & childs chart. This I think would cover the Dr's arse in case of malpractice being brought up by mental parents who think their girl should be a boy & vice versa.
fricking crazy Californians, can they all really be this fricking crazy?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:54 am to
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people who down the line as adults want to amend the birth certificate.


exactly

why subject your kids to unnecessary future legal fees?

why even create the false premise in their mind that this is a decision that they need to even concern themselves with?

that stress is completely unnecessary

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:54 am to
quote:

people who down the line as adults want to amend the birth certificate.


exactly

why subject your kids to unnecessary future legal fees?

why even create the false premise in their mind that this is a decision that they need to even concern themselves with?

that stress is completely unnecessary

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:55 am to
Had to identify gender at a new medical facility last week - choices = M - F - T

Almost circled the T - just to make them deal with the bullshite.

And how do I know that I am not really a Lesbian trapped in a Male body???
Posted by TrueTiger
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67692 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:55 am to
That was weird.

I posted and got this:



then went back and had a triple post
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 10:00 am
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3853 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

I'm sure some parents out there will mark non-binary or whatever at birth but I imagine this 3rd option will come into play for people who down the line as adults want to amend the birth certificate. I think it's bonkers, but I imagine that's what they had in mind when they drafted this.


That and rare cases where children are born hermaphrodites or with abnormal chromosomes. I think doctors have been growing more reluctant to perform corrective surgeries on these newborns as sometimes they pick the wrong assignment. This would make it easier to defer to adulthood, although I bet the corrective surgery is more complicated by then.

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14786 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:06 am to
I thought maybe you just really wanted to reply to my post.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13922 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:07 am to
Come on mystics and statistics, get your act together.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

And how do I know that I am not really a Lesbian trapped in a Male body???

Do you own a pair of Birkenstocks and how many flannel shirts do you have in your closet?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67692 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:17 am to
quote:

choices = M - F - T



should be:

M - F or NCM (non compos mentis)

Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17690 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:45 am to
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This country has fallen to an all time low. Can't imagine what it will be like in 50 years.





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