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re: Brutal couple of NH GOP primary polls from this morning for DeSantis
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:13 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:13 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I disagree with the other poster that suggests Trump is not getting any scrutiny
DeSantis has been labeled "establishment" because of who has said nice things about him/negative things about Trump. It's hard to look at his record as governor/in the house and see "establishment" but who cares about that when Paul Ryan said something nice about RDS?
Trump fed the frick out of the establishment with cash, and I'm talking about before Covid. In spite of his rhetoric, he ended up extending Fisa like the establishment demanded, creating CISA, walking back positions on illegal and legal immigration, and then 2020 rolled around and the dude straight up took the knee for the establishment. Whether by design or happenstance, the unassailable fact is the establishment was far more powerful, far more in control and far more monied on Trump's last day in office than it was on his first. How much of Trump's current base of voters acknowledges any of this?
Trump is not being scrutinized.
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I think the left trying to destroy Trump has backfired, but they didn't do it to lift him above the other candidates again.
On this board the indictments were discussed at length starting when they were just rumors. The overwhelming consensus was if Dems followed through, they'd be do nothing but making Trump stronger. Do you believe Democrats, who have run circles around Republicans politically for a few decades - do you think they were surprised by Trump's spike in support with each indictment?
Let's say they had an uncharacteristic brainfart and didn't realize the impact of the first Trump indictment, why didn't they pull up on the others after seeing what happened after the first?
Nobody engenders emotion like Trump. Right and Left, the dude is either weirdly hated or weirdly adored. IMO Dems have done the math, and they've decided their best chances for a shitty incumbent who's in the process of burning the country down is for the '24 election to be all about emotion and more than a little chaotic. I don't think their chances are great in any case, but it makes sense to me that they see their dim chances at least slightly better with the emotion/chaos that is characteristic of Trump politics.
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:19 pm to David_DJS
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there is zero scrutiny of Trump.
holy shite. Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:22 pm to the808bass
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There is a large subset of his supporters who will not publicly admit he can make a mistake.
This is complete BS. A name one person that has said he has made zero mistakes.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:23 pm to BBONDS25
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A name one person that has said he has made zero mistakes.
Good thing you didn’t quote the post.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:27 pm to saintforlife1
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32% Haley
12% Christie
If these numbers are true then there isn't a true conservative party in NH. Haley and Christie would be considered commie leftist 30 years ago.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:27 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I get where you are coming from, but he did frick up. Whether you like Trump or don't he had the major support of voters and they have a score to settle. You wait for him to get through 24 and Desantis is the guy. It is a huge misread by him and his team. Again, regardless if you are correct or not the reality is no one was going to unseat Trump for the nomination in 2
Some refreshing truth.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:28 pm to the808bass
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But he forgot that Trump is a fighter and you don’t beat him by being above the fray.
Lol, did someone forget to tell Pushaw?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:28 pm to the808bass
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Good thing you didn’t quote the post.
What? Your assertion is completely false. I asked you to substantiate it, and this is your response? What you are engaging in is classic liberal projection. You’re better than that. Do better.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:30 pm to the808bass
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quote:No idea where the love for Haley came from.
No one likes Haley. She’s just the “I’m not voting for Trump and I am socially moderate” candidate.
Haley is the cookie cutter establishment candidate perfectly suited for the R faction of the D.C. Uniparty.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:33 pm to PorkSammich
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He really fricked up. Had he waited and ran in 28, he would have been the one.
Ha. He’ll be the clear front runner when everyone realizes backing Trump again was a huge mistake.
I think Vivek could be the candidate the under age 50 conservatives gravitate towards, he seems to be getting decent traction.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:33 pm to BBONDS25
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They will say “Obviously he’s not perfect.” But they will then fight any criticism of him.
Here’s another part of my quote. As an example of this, in a thread about Fauci, someone criticized Trump by inference and you then posted this:
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And Ron can’t wait to issue another order doing what Fauci tells him.
You (so far) have made 6 more posts defending Trump against the criticism that he was too enabling of Fauci. You are one of the poster children of my statement.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:35 pm to Bass Tiger
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I think Vivek could be the candidate the under age 50 conservatives gravitate towards, he seems to be getting decent traction.
Vivek is the Carly Fiorina/Pete DuPont/Herman Cain/Steve Forbes/Ross Perot/etc etc etc candidate of the 2024 election.
He will never be anything but a spoiler in a primary or election.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:40 pm to the808bass
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You (so far) have made 6 more posts defending Trump against the criticism that he was too enabling of Fauci. You are one of the poster children of my statement.
I made a ridiculous comment in Response to a ridiculous comment. Then the Ron fans got in a tizzy and came after me. Not a single person went after the poster that made the initial ridiculous comment. Lending credence to my assertion that you are participating in classic liberal projection.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:41 pm to BBONDS25
Did Trump get cucked by Fauchi?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:42 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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quote:How is Trump going to settle the score?
I said voters had a score to settle. They feel their vote was a victim of a steal. Have you ever been stolen from or a car broken into? Causes some anger and a desire to make someone pay.
This ^^^ is exactly why Trump has the support he has.
The Anti Trump Consortium didn't just frick Trump from being reelected president, more importantly they were demonstrating their power, showing the American people your will and votes don't mean shite to us....and they installed the most racist, compromised and corrupt politician in US history into the presidency.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:42 pm to roadGator
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Did Trump get cucked by Fauchi?
Yes.
Did Ron get cucked by Trump and Fauci?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:44 pm to BBONDS25
He incorrectly believed them both early on for sure. That didn’t last long though as you are keenly aware.
I’m glad he didn’t fly Fauchi to Florida and give him a medal.
Who the frick would do that?
I’m glad he didn’t fly Fauchi to Florida and give him a medal.
Who the frick would do that?
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:44 pm to the808bass
While I understand why DeSantis did what he felt he needed to do, the biggest disappointment of ‘24 is no Trump - DeSantis ticket. Together they would be unstoppable and a great yin and yang. I think DeSantis still has a bright future and is the future of the party. The stage was set though, January 7th, 2021. Everyone knew Trump was coming back and there would be a large mountain to climb to topple him.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:50 pm to BBONDS25
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Did Ron get cucked by Trump and Fauci?
Ron fricked up, admitted it and pushed for legislation to prevent another lockdown in the future.
Fauci thinks he did everything correctly, to this day.
Trump also thinks he was correct and wants credit for following Fauci's lead.
There's a fairly large distinction between those three men and the way they've handled COVID since the early months of 2020.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:52 pm to the808bass
quote:You don’t think we’re intelligent enough to know what we’re fighting?
We have a large percentage of voters who want to fight. They’re not sure why they’re fighting or what they want to win. But they want to fight. And for those people, Trump is their candidate and always will be.
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