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British intelligence passed Trump surveillance to US counterparts . . . SIAP
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:40 pm
Just as Napolitano said!
quote:
British intelligence passed Trump associates' communications with Russians on to US counterparts
By Jim Sciutto, Pamela Brown and Eric Bradner, CNN
Updated 4:17 PM ET, Thu April 13, 2017
Washington (CNN) British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.
The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.
LINK
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:40 pm to NC_Tigah
So Judge Napolitano was right too.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:44 pm to papasmurf1269
quote:Didn't he say the surveillance was of Trump himself?
So Judge Napolitano was right too.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:45 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
"incidental collection," these sources tell CNN
Trying to get ahead of the narrative...
frick them.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:45 pm to NC_Tigah
I had a feeling that the judge was right because of how fast he was back on the air and standing by his sources.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:46 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:I don't really remember
Didn't he say the surveillance was of Trump himself?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:48 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection,"
quote:
Just as Napolitano said!
Nope.
quote:
“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA, he didn’t use the CIA, he didn’t use the FBI and he didn’t use the Department of Justice,” Napolitano said. “He used GCHQ.”
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Lol....you think they're saying different things.
Moron
Moron
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:50 pm to CptBengal
quote:
Lol....you think they're saying different things.
Moron
They are, scientist.
Stick to the Air Force tornado and leave this to people that know what they're talking about.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:50 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Didn't he say the surveillance was of Trump himself?
Yes.
quote:
Sources have told me that the British foreign surveillance service, the Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, most likely provided Obama with transcripts of Trump’s calls.
LINK
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:53 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I'll do that when one shows up
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:54 pm to gthog61
Present.
Targeted collection and incidental collection are entirely different.
You don't have to like the facts for them to be facts.
Targeted collection and incidental collection are entirely different.
You don't have to like the facts for them to be facts.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:55 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Washington (CNN) British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.
The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.
Sounds reasonable.
quote:
Just as Napolitano said!
Negative.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:00 pm to NC_Tigah
So they have cooked up a way to blame what Obama was doing with the CIA, FBI and NSA on the Russians and the British. Anybody that believes this is an idiot.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:01 pm to NC_Tigah
The Guardian article from earlier today gives a bit more detail:
LINK
Britain, Estonia, the Netherlands and others were all blowing the whistle.
I'm curious af to know what this is all about. You?
quote:
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.
It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.
quote:
According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.
In late August and September Brennan gave a series of classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them the agency had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump to win the presidency, the New York Times reported.
One person familiar with the matter said Brennan did not reveal sources but made reference to the fact that America’s intelligence allies had provided information. Trump subsequently learned of GCHQ’s role, the person said.
The person described US intelligence as being “very late to the game”. The FBI’s director, James Comey, altered his position after the election and Trump’s victory, becoming “more affirmative” and with a “higher level of concern”.
Comey’s apparent shift may have followed a mid-October decision by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court to approve a secret surveillance order. The order gave permission for the Department of Justice to investigate two banks suspected of being part of the Kremlin’s undercover influence operation.
According to the BBC, the justice department’s request came after a tipoff from an intelligence agency in one of the Baltic states. This is believed to be Estonia.
LINK
Britain, Estonia, the Netherlands and others were all blowing the whistle.
I'm curious af to know what this is all about. You?
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:02 pm to NC_Tigah
So team Trump was working with Russia. I'm shocked
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:05 pm to Decatur
quote:
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.
It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.
quote:
According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.
In late August and September Brennan gave a series of classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them the agency had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump to win the presidency, the New York Times reported.
One person familiar with the matter said Brennan did not reveal sources but made reference to the fact that America’s intelligence allies had provided information. Trump subsequently learned of GCHQ’s role, the person said.
The person described US intelligence as being “very late to the game”. The FBI’s director, James Comey, altered his position after the election and Trump’s victory, becoming “more affirmative” and with a “higher level of concern”.
Comey’s apparent shift may have followed a mid-October decision by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court to approve a secret surveillance order. The order gave permission for the Department of Justice to investigate two banks suspected of being part of the Kremlin’s undercover influence operation.
According to the BBC, the justice department’s request came after a tipoff from an intelligence agency in one of the Baltic states. This is believed to be Estonia.
Not on Brietbart or from a tweet. Not credible.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:08 pm to BamaScoop
quote:
So they have cooked up a way to blame what Obama was doing with the CIA, FBI and NSA on the Russians and the British. Anybody that believes this is an idiot.
Better watch CitizenFour. Snowden confirmed that GCHQ data collection and surveillance techniques were far more capable than the NSA.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:09 pm to beastieboys
quote:
Snowden confirmed that GCHQ data collection and surveillance techniques were far more capable than the NSA.
No.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:14 pm to Decatur
quote:Sounds like an amazing recipe for salad dressing.
The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.
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