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re: BMW "not budging" on Mexican plant

Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:59 pm to
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So, Trump is proposing we pay more for our BMWs if they build in Mexico (



Yep. I doubt you get much sympathy
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:02 pm to
BMW has an American company.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41768 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:04 pm to
Tax will be on imports on Mexico. Trump is warning BMW that they will be impacted by the tax if they move forward with building cars in Mexico and selling them in the US.

Fewer people will buy those cars and it will cause either the price to drop, the series to be discontinued, or BMW will be forced to relocate the manufacturing of the car.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:07 pm to
No one said trump's supporters were smart LOL
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10232 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:08 pm to
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It's a negotiation tactic.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10232 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:09 pm to
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I thought this was a given but I guess not.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19088 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:11 pm to
I guess they done forgot the arse whuppin' we gave 'em back in '45.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:13 pm to
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It's a negotiation tactic.


No, Donald Trump is an idiot and continues to prove he has no idea wtf he is doing.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:14 pm to
Don't miss my BMW. Won't be getting another one.

Still refuse to drive American though.

Trump needs to put some pressure on the Range Rover design team so I can buy something newer than an L322. Make Rovers Square Again
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3140 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:15 pm to
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So Germans and Mexicans are going to pay for the wall?


It's a start. Time to make up for that Telegram in 1917.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:16 pm to
When does he announce the tariffs on his line of shitty products?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48671 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:18 pm to
Your predictions have been spot on this election season. I'm going with whatever you say.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28149 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:18 pm to
A German carmaker not employing US workers!

Oh the horror!

Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10232 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:18 pm to
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No, Donald Trump is an idiot and continues to prove he has no idea wtf he is doing.


Hmmm....I wonder what other hugely successful American President threatened tariffs a lot?

I also wonder who doesn't know the difference between a unilateral tariff, and a tariff that offsets a tariff ike policy.

I guess the American consumer has no choices in brand of car to purchase. Only BMW's. But the price of all cars is certainly going to go up. And no way American couldn't import BMW's from another country either.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:19 pm to
I think the answer is to guarantee BMW and other manufacturers that they can get American labor as cheap as Mexico (and China, and India, and Philipines, etc). The US autoworkers unions can be busted with good cheap Mexican labor. Maybe even put some of those refugees to work or use prison labor.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79935 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:19 pm to
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If he continues this after Friday he will be out of the presidency real quick.




Idiot.
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11243 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:19 pm to
I would've figured that literally hitler trump wanted more german vehicles in the USA
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9971 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:19 pm to
If they take a profit loss from their expense, then that would be on BMW. Let's play.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8020 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:20 pm to
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It's a negotiation tactic.


Help me out here. What's his end game?

He isn't slapping a 35% tariff on Mexican imports or making a dent in NAFTA. Not without Congress, and they aren't going to go along with it. Furthermore, the Mexican leadership knows that as well; are they going to play his kabuki dance for a wall?

He knows that a revanchist protectionism is bad for American companies and the American economy in the long run. Like real, real bad. What happens when Mexico turns around and slaps a 35% tariff on American imports (of which there are a lot, especially in auto manufacturing)?

Have you ever seen a chart of American manufacturing workers as a share of the economy since the 1960's? You can't even tell where NAFTA, TTIP, et al started because technology is 20 times more responsible for the decline in American manufacturing labor (not output, where we now manufacture more than we ever have) than globalization ever was. Why pursue this vainglorious and futile attempt at getting some halcyon days of manufacturing back?

I think it's hilarious how Trump ruffles a lot of feathers, but his economic protectionism fricking baffles me. TPP is a great example: that treaty was/is so heavily slanted towards the United States and our economic interests that the Chinese flat couldn't figure out what the hell happened and why we are rejecting it. Auto manufacturing is also a great example of why we need to move to a value-added system in calculating trade deficits; the current system is completely antiquated and is not an accurate picture of economic activity whatsoever.

So, you're a smart guy. Why do this?
Posted by Rebelgator
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Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:20 pm to
Just the Maybach.
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