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re: Bill Maher criticizes liberals for their hypocricy on Islam
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:25 pm to Revelator
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:25 pm to Revelator
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This is why when people say Islam is a religion of peace they are wrong. Those who practice Islam in a peaceful way are reprobates and not following the example of their prophet. True Islam has always been spread by the sword.
Very True
Posted on 9/28/14 at 3:46 am to ballscaster
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basis.He makes the same mistake that the Islamophobic Christians in this country make--he blames religion for anything. He will say that people do bad things because of religion, and that is absurd, especially when you consider that the two men who gleaned the highest body counts in world history did so in the name of the eradication of religion. The truth is that people do bad things and find an ideology that justifies the bad things that they do. Often that ideology is a religion; it can be nationalism, racism, or any other type of -ism used as a scapegoat for their shameful acts. The backward American who blames Islam for terrorist attacks is the same guy who says "I'm not homophobic--I just oppose the gay lifestyle because of what the Bible says." Nah, you just don't like gays, and terrorists just don't like people like you. The religious connection isn't the doing of the religion itself; it's the doing of the pussies who can't own up to their own flaws and need to hide behind an ideology to justify why they're scum. In no way am I comparing being anti-gay to being a terrorist. I would never besmirch the good name of terrorism with such a comparison.
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This entire post is complete bullshite
Posted on 9/28/14 at 6:36 am to bencoleman
Three replies. Zero substance.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:26 am to Wild Thang
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watch his incredible show or his brilliant stand-up routines
quote:surprised he didn't include descriptive verbs like, dazzling, stupendous or mesmerizing.
Good Lord.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:16 am to ballscaster
Their Muslim faith is their ideology, and it is not just terrorism it's their deviant behavior that is most certainly sanctioned by their perverted faith.
beheadings- for all sorts of reasons
female subjagationp- including stonings, beatings, mutilation of their genitals, honor killings
pedophilia is widespread and excepted
modern day slavery
sharia law is a brutal and perverted practice
Your argument is bullshite and doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
beheadings- for all sorts of reasons
female subjagationp- including stonings, beatings, mutilation of their genitals, honor killings
pedophilia is widespread and excepted
modern day slavery
sharia law is a brutal and perverted practice
Your argument is bullshite and doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:23 am to SirWinston
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Islam is just terrible
Sarcasm is a female trait
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:41 am to SirWinston
I don't agree with Maher on much but I respect that he has the balls to call out his fellow liberals on this issue. Up-vote.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:44 pm to bencoleman
If Islam is as bad as you say it is, why isn't every Muslim a murderer? Why must you dehumanize the offenders so as to shift the blame to an ideology rather than rest it with those who commit the offense?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 1:05 pm to ballscaster
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If Islam is as bad as you say it is,
The truth is you can't refute any of the examples I laid out of their pathetic culture.
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Why must you dehumanize the offenders so as to shift the blame to an ideology rather than rest it with those who commit the offense
The examples I provided are not offenses according to muslim doctrine. For some reason you can't seem to comprehend what is staring you in the face.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 1:28 pm to bencoleman
I never said their culture wasn't pathetic.
Muslim doctrine isn't the arbiter of right and wrong in a dialogue between two non-Muslims.
I am above murder or, more specifically, murdering in the name of religion, and I assume you are as well. To blame Islam itself for terrorist acts is to imply that religion turns non-murderers into murderers, which traps you and all others arguing this in a dilemma: you must acknowledge that either:
A) None of us is above murder
B) Some people are above murder, and some people are not.
When you wise up and acknowledge the obvious truth of the latter, you'll be close to realizing that people don't kill because of Islam (or any religion), but rather they are fervent in Islam to justify their atrocious acts because they are pussies.
Somewhere a Boston fan will pick a fight with a New York fan today. Is he doing this because he is a Boston fan and the other guy is a Yankee fan and they have a rivalry between each other, or is he doing this because he's got short-man-syndrome and can't get laid because he's an ugly 5'6" ginger who would pick a fight after two beers regardless of his other circumstances?
Muslim doctrine isn't the arbiter of right and wrong in a dialogue between two non-Muslims.
I am above murder or, more specifically, murdering in the name of religion, and I assume you are as well. To blame Islam itself for terrorist acts is to imply that religion turns non-murderers into murderers, which traps you and all others arguing this in a dilemma: you must acknowledge that either:
A) None of us is above murder
B) Some people are above murder, and some people are not.
When you wise up and acknowledge the obvious truth of the latter, you'll be close to realizing that people don't kill because of Islam (or any religion), but rather they are fervent in Islam to justify their atrocious acts because they are pussies.
Somewhere a Boston fan will pick a fight with a New York fan today. Is he doing this because he is a Boston fan and the other guy is a Yankee fan and they have a rivalry between each other, or is he doing this because he's got short-man-syndrome and can't get laid because he's an ugly 5'6" ginger who would pick a fight after two beers regardless of his other circumstances?
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:42 pm to ballscaster
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am above murder or, more specifically, murdering in the name of religion, and I assume you are as well. To blame Islam itself for terrorist acts is to imply that religion turns non-murderers into murderers, which traps you and all others arguing this in a dilemma: you must acknowledge that either
Unfortunately your argument doesn't hold up, The muslim religion preaches these despicable acts as perfectly fine and within the parameters of their doctrine. When you are raising little psychopaths from birth you bear responsibility for their actions. Your attempt to absolve the muslim religion of it's responsibility is a waste of your time and in the end futile.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:08 pm to ballscaster
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"I'm not homophobic--I just oppose the gay lifestyle because of what the Bible says." Nah, you just don't like gays, and terrorists just don't like people like you.
The Bible also tells us that lying with another woman outside of marriage is just as sinful as a man lying with another man. Does that mean that l'm Meophobic?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 5:15 pm to bencoleman
quote:You obviously have no idea what my argument is, and you prove your ignorance further here:
Unfortunately your argument doesn't hold up, The muslim religion preaches these despicable acts as perfectly fine and within the parameters of their doctrine.
quote:Your unwitting absolving people of their transgressions in order to blame their religion is ridiculous.
Your attempt to absolve the muslim religion of it's responsibility is a waste of your time and in the end futile.
If you were right, every Muslim would murder.
Why do some Muslims murder and some don't?
Why do some people listen to "Helter Skelter" and murder and some don't?
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 5:22 pm to ballscaster
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Why do some people listen to "Helter Skelter" and murder and some don't?
Well, in that case only 1 person on the planet did it. I'm pretty sure more than 1 Muslim reads the Koran and goes out and cuts people's heads off.
However, if someone made me listen this guy sing 24/7 I'd look for a knife and the nearest innocent person.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 5:37 pm to Zach
The difference between the people who listen to "Helter Skelter" and murder and the people who listen to "Helter Skelter" and do not murder is the exact same as the difference between Muslims who murder and Muslims who do not murder.
A Muslim who reads the Koran and does not murder does not murder for the exact same reason I read Revelation 19 and do not murder: because I am not a crazy a-hole.
The idea that religion makes people murder implies that these "believers" can't help their actions and that they may not have murdered if they had another religion or none at all, and that is absurd and something close to racist.
Other than Revelator and SEC Crazy, there is not a person on this board who would murder if they had been brought up Muslim. That tells you right there that Islam isn't the cause. And neither is "Helter Skelter."
The people who live in the earth's ash tray and who murder would do so if Islam never existed. Those people are assholes who want to kill people.
A Muslim who reads the Koran and does not murder does not murder for the exact same reason I read Revelation 19 and do not murder: because I am not a crazy a-hole.
The idea that religion makes people murder implies that these "believers" can't help their actions and that they may not have murdered if they had another religion or none at all, and that is absurd and something close to racist.
Other than Revelator and SEC Crazy, there is not a person on this board who would murder if they had been brought up Muslim. That tells you right there that Islam isn't the cause. And neither is "Helter Skelter."
The people who live in the earth's ash tray and who murder would do so if Islam never existed. Those people are assholes who want to kill people.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 6:30 pm to ballscaster
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You obviously have no idea what my argument is, and you prove your ignorance further here:
Calling me ignorant does not help your argument,
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Your unwitting absolving people of their transgressions in order to blame their religion is ridiculous
No one is absolving anyone of their personal responsibility. Your argument that people don't become a product of their environment is patently absurd.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:04 pm to bencoleman
quote:Not what I did.
Calling me ignorant
quote:not what I said.
Your argument that people don't become a product of their environment
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:09 pm to ballscaster
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Other than Revelator and SEC Crazy, there is not a person on this board who would murder if they had been brought up Muslim. That tells you right there that Islam isn't the cause. And neither is "Helter Skelter."
Why do you assume this?
I'm not gonna argue that Revelator and SEC Crazy arent religious nutjobs, but I think you are very naive if you believe that being raised in an Islamic culture doesnt warp perceptions and doesnt increase the odds of murdering in the name of religion.
As I've said for years, only true believers fly planes into skyscrapers. Nobody with even a single shred of doubt does that.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Then why do approximately 100% of them not murder?
if you believe that being raised in an Islamic culture doesnt warp perceptions and doesnt increase the odds of murdering in the name of religion.
Mass murder in the Middle East predates Islam. Islam didn't make these killers; it's more the other way around.
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