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re: Biden's Back Door Student Loan Forgiveness

Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:52 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:52 am to
Guess your law degree didn’t pay off like you thought.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:04 am to
Oh it did. I’m doing great. Would still love if that interest rate went down though.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9775 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:05 am to
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Borrowers with balances of $12,000 or less will get loans canceled after 10 years. For every $1,000 over this, cancellation will come after additional year.


10 years after what?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423384 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:06 am to
Damn I didn't realize how high mine had gone up with the interest rate increases
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:06 am to
Did you not read the terms of the contract you agreed to?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:09 am to
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Did you not read the terms of the contract you agreed to?


Of course I did, and I will pay it back according to those terms. Not coming from a wealthy family, student loans were my only option to pay for law school. Obviously, I’d prefer a lower interest rate.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:10 am to
Why won’t the President lower my mortgage interest rate?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:14 am to
You’re smart enough to know the difference in a private mortgage lender and a student loan with rates set by Congress. I guess you’re bored or you just missed me
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1479 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:19 am to
If you're a college grad and you make $32,800 your student loan is the least of your worries
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19408 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:43 am to
From the time they went into repayment probably, going with the origination date would be odd.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32014 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:49 am to
This is the kind of stuff the GOP should have come up with.


Now Biden gets to play the hero all
Over the place.

“I wanted to cancel your loans but the Republicans stopped me!” “At least I did this!”
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3578 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:49 am to
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Just got out of a webinar with Department of Education. Here's what Biden has planned to get around student loan forgiveness.

It's called the SAVE Plan and it will replace the current Income-Driven Repayment Plans. All borrowers will be eligible

No payments required for those who earn less than 225% of federal poverty line ($32,800 currently) - up from $22000 now.

No interest if payments are made on time. (Includes $0 payments in scenario above)

Payments capped at 5% of discretionary income (down from 10%)

Borrowers with balances of $12,000 or less will get loans canceled after 10 years. For every $1,000 over this, cancellation will come after additional year.



Seems pretty fair really. I have zero problems with this.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:59 am to
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Makes for a good democrat voter for their entire life, doesn't it?

looks like LBJ and his "ni***rs votes" for 150 years

Will there be an impact on the nuclear family or other subsequent chaos equal to the destruction of black families?
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2311 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:59 am to
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This should not hold up in court


Well, it's possible that it will as it appears on its face to be generally in line with changes that were made with the PAYE and REPAYE payment options under previous administrations. I'm not sure where the Court will draw the line at on what is a completely new program than what congress intended.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:10 pm to
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This should not hold up in court


He’s going to go through the APA and use negotiated rule making, which means it will take over a year or two for these changes to go into effect. My understanding is that governing repayment plans is well within the scope of the Higher Education Act. It’s not blanket forgiveness and still requires people who make money to pay back on their loans.

It’s a delicate balance for Republicans as well. If they oppose this entirely it’s dangerous considering that millennials are soon going to be the voting majority and student loan reform is a big issue for a lot of them. And most people don’t have an issue with zero or one percent interest in loans.

Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10598 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:12 pm to
It won't.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2700 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10414 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:28 pm to
They provided intent with their own words to ignore a ruling and trying to do an end round with this forgiveness of loans. While it may be in the scope of a program to pick the administrations fumble I cannot see how one argues that it legitimately is legal.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41697 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Of course I did, and I will pay it back according to those terms. Not coming from a wealthy family, student loans were my only option to pay for law school. Obviously, I’d prefer a lower interest rate.


$30,000 over 10 years at 8% interest is a payment of $364 per month.

$30,000 over 10 years at 4% interest is a payment of $304 per month.

Nobody gives a shite about getting their rate lowered. You are all a bunch of freeloaders who want your debt cancelled.

But I am good with student loans being treated like a mortgage default. It is better to have people back in the consumer marketplace rather than trying to not show income. And the banks should lose money for giving loans to people who they shouldn't have given loans to. It should make it harder for people to get loans who are not in a serious course of study.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:55 pm to
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$30,000 over 10 years at 8% interest is a payment of $364 per month.

$30,000 over 10 years at 4% interest is a payment of $304 per month.

Nobody gives a shite about getting their rate lowered. You are all a bunch of freeloaders who want your debt cancelled.


I have never argued for anything other than a lower interest rate. Specifically with professional/graduate loans, you are borrowing a lot more and the interest rate is between 5-7% usually.
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