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Biden win legitimacy

Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:37 am
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
905 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:37 am
Is there any scenario that you can see where a Biden win would be legitimate or is the only way he wins is with cheating?

Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:38 am to
Just look at the crowds, come on man
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:39 am to
NO! Drumph has a 52% approval and everyone knows Joe is mentally ill . No way he wins legitimately.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26070 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Is there any scenario that you can see where a Biden win would be legitimate or is the only way he wins is with cheating?



Look, I voted for Trump this year after voting third party in 2016, so I am on the MAGA train and believe that he has a strong chance to defy the polling and win a second term.

However--it is not reasonable to truly believe that there is ZERO legitimate possibility that Biden wins the election.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 11:41 am
Posted by Jayne
Member since Aug 2020
22 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:40 am to
There is no way Biden can win legitimately.

All metrics and polls that matter show this clearly.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6928 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:40 am to
If Trump has >65M votes and loses I will question it. But if Trump gets <60M votes and loses, it is what it is.
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:41 am to
Biden isn't a legitimate candidate, much less anything more than that
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57258 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:41 am to
quote:

If Trump has >65M votes and loses I will question it.
But if Trump gets <60M votes and loses, it is what it is.


What? You do realize that Trump mail in ballots could easily be "thrown out"
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81388 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:42 am to
If he wins Florida and/or NC than he will win legitimately.

There's a slight chance we could be getting Romney'd and Biden is doing way better with crossover suburban votes in Orlando / Jacksonville / Tampa than any of us believe. This would also mean that Trump only wins Iowa and Ohio by 2-3% instead of the 7-9% he enjoyed in 2016. This would mean he legitimately comes up short in PA, MI, WI, MN.

If that happens we have lost. But there's really nothing to support that being the case that I can see.
Posted by mtopdawg421
Middle GA
Member since Aug 2017
984 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:43 am to
The media tried to swear that Killary won. And she at least drew crowds. If Biden (lets be honest, Harris/Pelosi) wins after the support that Trump has garnered, something will be fishy...and no I'm not talking about Hillary's hellhole
Posted by Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2020
103 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:43 am to
quote:

There is no way Biden can win legitimately.

All metrics and polls that matter show this clearly.





What polls are you looking at?
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30049 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:46 am to
quote:

All metrics and polls that matter show this clearly.



Link?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26070 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:46 am to
quote:

If he wins Florida and/or NC than he will win legitimately.


This is why I strongly believe that we are going to be able to get a feel for how this shakes out very early. Whether the Florida vote rolling in after 7pm is more similar to 2012 or 2016 numbers will give everyone a great indication of where the night is headed. Ohio will do the same a half-hour later. New Hampshire will be instructive early on as well.

The election may not be officially over for days, but absent some strange scenario where Trump wins Florida but loses NC or GA, etc, everyone will have an idea of what to expect from the slow-counting states.
Posted by The Cajun Tiger
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2020
105 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:50 am to
quote:

All metrics and polls that matter show this clearly.


In other words, the polls you agree with
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71251 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:03 pm to
He won't win, but if he does its not because people want him, they want trump gone.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77293 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:03 pm to
No
Posted by Jayne
Member since Aug 2020
22 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:32 pm to
The ones from the only outfit to accurately predict Trump would win FL, PA, MI, and WI in 2016.

Trafalgar.

Though they did say Trump would have to win by 5% to overcome the fraud in PA.

The metrics I was referring to were the 56% of people who say they're better off now than 4 years ago and the 52% job approval rating that came out yesterday.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:35 pm to
Zero
Posted by Jayne
Member since Aug 2020
22 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:36 pm to
What pollster accurately predicted that Trump would win FL, PA, MI, and WI in 2016?

The answer is ONE: Trafalgar.

Why would you pay attention to those who were totally wrong 4 years ago and showed Trump down by double digits a week ago but somehow all within MoE now?

They're fakers. Pay attention to those who don't fake and who got it right last time.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6928 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

What? You do realize that Trump mail in ballots could easily be "thrown out"


Most Trump voters will be in person. I doubt there will be millions out there thrown out. A couple hundred, maybe, but that won't affect the outcome.

The real outcome effect will be the amount of false Dem mail ins that can overcome the total. So if you see Trump with 65M plus and he loses then some malarkey went on.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 1:52 pm
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