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Biden to close ‘gun-show loophole’ and expand background checks for firearms

Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:43 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:43 am
The ‘gun-show loophole’ is such a false narrative and complete BS but it's elections season so its time to drag up his unconstitutional attempts to stop legal gun transfers




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The Biden administration is moving to expand background checks for gun purchases, fulfilling a key demand of advocates following the deadly shooting at a school in Uvalde, Texas.

The final rule, expected to be submitted Thursday to the Federal Register by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, would eliminate a loophole that has allowed sales of guns without background checks of guns outside of brick-and-mortar stores.

The rule was issued under a provision of the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. It requires that anyone who sells guns for profit to have a license and that buyers be subject to a background check, including at firearms shows and flea markets. The administration had been working on the rule since last spring. Once publicized, it will take effect in 30 days.

The so-called gun show loophole has for years allowed unlicensed gun dealers to sell firearms without background checks at gun shows, on the internet and out of their homes. The new rule, the most sweeping expansion of firearms background checks in decades, will apply to more than 20,000 individuals engaged in unlicensed gun dealing and affect “tens and tens of thousands of gun sales” each year, an administration official told reporters during a call previewing the announcement.

“This single gap in our federal background check system has caused unimaginable pain and suffering,” Vice President Kamala Harris said on the call.

The vice president noted the 25th anniversary next week of the mass shooting at Columbine High School, which was carried out with weapons purchased through the gun-show loophole. She also pointed to the 2019 shooting in Midland and Odessa, Texas, where a man killed seven people and wounded dozens of others. A background check stopped the shooter from purchasing a gun at a sporting goods store in 2014, but he later purchased an AR-15 from an unlicensed seller he met online.

“So many communities have been torn apart by acts of violence committed with weapons bought without background checks,” she continued. “So in the memory of all those we have lost today, as the head of the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, I am proud to announce that all gun dealers now must conduct background checks no matter where or how they sell their merchandise.”

After Congress passed the gun safety legislation in June 2022 following a shooting in Uvalde, Texas, gun safety groups have pushed the White House to use it to expand background checks by clarifying which entities are considered “engaged in the business” of selling firearms. Doing so would not fulfill the president’s plea for universal background checks, as it would not apply to all sales, including private transfers. But the rule’s publication still marks a step forward in the administration’s more incremental efforts to regulate gun sales through implementation of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act.

“We know this doesn’t get all the way there. And this law can only do so much. And it’s why the president is firm that the Congress needs to finish this job and make sure that we have background checks on all gun sales,” an administration official said.

The final rule comes a year after the president issued an executive order directing Attorney General Merrick Garland to develop and implement a plan to clarify the definition of “engaged in business.” The Department of Justice issued the proposed rule in September. The administration has also made an effort to release previously undisclosed firearms data, offering a fuller picture of the illegal firearms market in the U.S.

An analysis published last week from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found sales by unlicensed dealers were the most frequently used gun trafficking channel. From 2017 to 2021, the ATF traced more than 68,000 of these illegally tracked firearms to unlicensed dealers.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:44 am to
I never purchased a gun at a gun-show...what is the gun-show loophole?
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:44 am to
This will stop criminals from committing gun crime for sure
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:45 am to
Regardless of how you feel about this, it’s blatantly unconstitutional for a president to use EOs for gun control.

Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:46 am to
like they give a frick now with EOs? LMAO
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:46 am to
frick that administration.

"Gun show loophole" is Democrat fear porn.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:46 am to
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Regardless of how you feel about this, it’s blatantly unconstitutional for a president to use EOs for gun control.




You voted for this.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140474 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:47 am to
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The so-called gun show loophole has for years allowed unlicensed gun dealers to sell firearms without background checks at gun shows, on the internet and out of their homes.


Bull shite. Gun dealers must be licensed.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:48 am to
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frick that administration.

"Gun show loophole" is Democrat fear porn.



I don't believe the gun-show loophole is even a real thing. It's my understanding to purchase guns at a gun-show you still go through the regular background checks, right?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:49 am to
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Bull shite. Gun dealers must be licensed.




Well, exactly.

Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:50 am to
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I don't believe the gun-show loophole is even a real thing. It's my understanding to purchase guns at a gun-show you still go through the regular background checks, right?
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Yes if you are purchasing from a dealer. No gun show I have ever attended is letting private individuals rent a booth to sell their personal collection which is what this aims to stop.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:51 am to
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I don't believe the gun-show loophole is even a real thing. It's my understanding to purchase guns at a gun-show you still go through the regular background checks, right?


Thats been my experience.

I think you can sell antique firearms without background checks. I suppose much of the misconception comes from this.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:51 am to
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You voted for this.


You didn't?
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:53 am to
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I never purchased a gun at a gun-show...what is the gun-show loophole


Your overlords want to be the only ones who can have guns.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:53 am to
You are filth.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79217 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:54 am to
Individual to individual gun sales don't require 4473s or background checks (in most states)

The vast majority of gun show sales are by dealers and utilize background checks

The gun show loophole isn't real, and it's the fantasy that the country is filled with people selling guns for profit without licensure/background checks
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79217 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:55 am to
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You are filth.




you've never held a firearm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71785 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:56 am to
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It's my understanding to purchase guns at a gun-show you still go through the regular background checks, right?


Anti-gun zealots pretend that gun shows are full of people walking around the parking lot, selling weapons of war to felons. This is why they've looked like complete tards when they've tried to "expose the system" by buying AR-15s and getting denied by NICS, or ordering weapons of war online and finding out they still have to go through an FFL and do a background check.

They're morons, but they know what's best for all of us.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260565 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:57 am to
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you've never held a firearm


I think he was looking at a gucci Mark IV the other week. He's close.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2389 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:58 am to
There ain't one. This is just theater for idiots
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