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Best summary of the memo so far. A little bit for everyone

Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:04 pm
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Ed Morrissey
?Verified account @EdMorrissey
12m12 minutes ago

(A) Most of what's in this memo has been either leaked prior to this or assumed, including the revelation that the FISA warrant relied in part on the Steele dossier. However, the memo makes clear that the Russia-collusion probe started well before that, with Papadopoulos.


(B) Despite all of the hysterics about the release of this memo, there seems to be little or no revelation about sources and methods in it. One has to wonder why these four pages were considered "Top Secret" in the first place. If it's Steele, that cat was out of the bag already.



(C) That being said, the FBI's withholding of their own relationship to Steele, and his relationship to the DNC and the Clinton campaign, looks like deliberate malfeasance, assuming that Nunes' conclusions are correct here.

(D) It raises one of the big concerns about FISA warrants, which is the lack of oversight and scrutiny they get. It seems the hysteria over this memo's classification was a good example of where that lack of scrutiny can take us.

(E) This also points out something that @AndrewCMcCarthy has stressed all along -- this was a counterintel operation, not a criminal probe. So far, we've not seen any evidence that it produced evidence of criminal activity.

(F) None of this really relates to the Mueller probe, which is springboarding off of that counterintel operation, except to the extent it relies on the Steele dossier ... which one assumes will not play much of a role, especially now.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

None of this really relates to the Mueller probe,


bullshite.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32786 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

None of this really relates to the Mueller probe, which is springboarding off of that counterintel operation, except to the extent it relies on the Steele dossier

lolwut

How does he know the evidence forming the basis of the Mueller probe? How does he know how the Mueller probe acquired evidence and what was used as the source of information for their subpoenas?

Until we know all of the information gleaned from the surveillance of Carter Page, NOTHING can be taken off the table.

Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:09 pm to
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there seems to be little or no revelation about sources and methods in it


And Ed Morrissey, and you and I have no idea whether or not this is true.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118822 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:10 pm to
Why are you so compelled to ride the fence?
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22942 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:12 pm to
Guarantee we are going to here the "no intent" bullshite line a lot in the next few days.

"The FBI didnt intend to mislead FISA"

Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64661 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

quote:
None of this really relates to the Mueller probe,



bullshite.




This could be a good line.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123940 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

None of this really relates to the Mueller probe, which is springboarding off of that counterintel operation, except to the extent it relies on the Steele dossier ... which one assumes will not play much of a role, especially now.
Except that it partially led to Comey's dismissal, which led to Mueller's hire.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23191 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:17 pm to
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revelation that the FISA warrant relied in part on the Steele dossier


He could get his facts straight for his fist point.

McCabe testified they don't get a warrant without it
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

McCabe testified they don't get a warrant without it


Seems the left refuses to hear this part.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17483 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:26 pm to
So evidence of clearly political motives by the FBI and DOJ in spying on the admin have nothing to do with the FBI and DOJ investigating the admin for said evidence supposedly "found" during the spying?


Liberal logic...checks out!
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:27 pm to
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(D) It raises one of the big concerns about FISA warrants, which is the lack of oversight and scrutiny they get. It seems the hysteria over this memo's classification was a good example of where that lack of scrutiny can take us.


This right here.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:36 pm to
The dossier is the relation to the Russian probe. Without that there is no fisa warrants or Russian probe.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22942 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:48 pm to
Guarantee most of them havent even read the whole memo.

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