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re: **Bernie Sanders Is Introducing Medicare For All Plan LIVE NOW**

Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73566 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:59 pm to
I see that.

Atl and rocket want still keeping the teams schtick going
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:00 pm to
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im confused, this is what we are doing now, right?


Um if you live in Canada. Not here.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Claims are claims


im not even sure what you are trying to argue here; all politicians makes claims that are not true

walls, repeal replace, etc for examples



my point was i can not answer your specific questions until the numbers are public, and they are not yet.

* i also have never said i supported this plan
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:00 pm to
that's clown queen, Ms. BamaAtl is a she.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5007 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:01 pm to
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they claim it will save the average american money, but i dont think the numbers are public yet


California looked into single payer. The cost was 400 billion. Their population is 40 million. So that is 10K per resident. 10K???

We (the United States) should NEVER go full bore into a single payer/medicare for all type system. Let a state like California try it. Let Oregon try it. Let Vermont try it. Then crunch the numbers and let me see it saving people money. Gov't programs NEVER cost what the politicians say they will cost. It is always multiples more.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:01 pm to
Sorry. Insurance lingo.

Claims being a service provided, that "claim" being reviewed and either approved or denied.

Not someone claims this will save money.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:03 pm to
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So that is 10K per resident. 10K???


Well, not all residents would be forced to pay $10k so some will have to pay more in this redistribution scheme.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:03 pm to
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Until you know how much wealth transfer will be required I would suggest being hesitant in supporting this effort to grow government.


im cautiously optimistic

our current system is a joke, though...so
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:04 pm to
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our current system is a joke,


How so?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:04 pm to
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How so?


Obamacare?

how many reasons do i need to list, wtf
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45735 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:06 pm to
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that's clown queen, Ms. BamaAtl is a she

No wonder y'all think all women are stupid.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:06 pm to
That's not the entire system.

Obamacare would work fine if you threw enough money at it. Most any system would. That's the problem.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Obamacare?

how many reasons do i need to list, wtf


So you admit that Obamacare sucks, then you want to double down on more government handling of health insurance? To the point where they handle all health insurance?

Doesn't seem to make too much sense.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112610 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:06 pm to
Mate, don't you plan on leaving the states soon anyway? You want to watch it burn?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:08 pm to
Will be funny to see the R's defend the status quo - Obamacare.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:09 pm to
rocket has always been a diehard Bern supporter.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11808 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:10 pm to
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I have been telling you guys for years ACA was simply the first tentative step.

You say this like we don't already know.

This is why we hate you and your ilk.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Will be funny to see the R's defend the status quo - Obamacare.



Would be bizzaro world to have the R's trying to maintain the status quo of Obamacare, while the D's try to replace the legislation they were so intent on passing that they established the "nuclear option" precedent to be used against them.

It just screams incompetence from all directions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:11 pm to
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rocket has always been a diehard Bern supporter.


Rocket blames boomers for all his failures because of entitlements like social security yet supports the ultimate entitlement boomer in Bernie
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:13 pm to
Dailycaller reporting the CBO score on this just came out: payroll taxes would need to rise 17.5% to fund it.
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