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re: Baghdad prepares for the worst as Islamist militants vow to capture the city

Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:40 am to
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16158 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:40 am to
-1.9% GDP. Yea REALLY healthy
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 8:42 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:25 am to
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I'm def not up on all of the ins/outs over there... But is it almost guaranteed that Iraq will break into multiple countries?


If there isn't a politician in charge who can pull the various sides (Shi'ite, Sunni, Kurd) together, it will break into three states.

The current president isn't cutting it because the Sunnis and Kurds don't trust him, in part because he should have been thrown out about 4 years ago but a deal brokered by the US, amongst others, kept him on as president. The Sunnis ended up boycotting the last elections in part because of that.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:40 am to
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it will break into three states.


That was the right answer 10 years ago - the problem has always centered on the oil - if you give Kirkuk and the Kurdish areas to the Kurds, and the south to the Sh'ia - the Sunni triangle is starved for oil, relatively speaking.

But, that is the right answer, based on demographics - Balkans-style.

If an agreement on dividing the oil revenue could have been reached this would already have been done - now, it will be settled in fire and blood.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7885 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:45 am to
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the Sunni triangle is starved for oil, relatively speaking.


and that is where the terrorist groups will come from. Poor pissed of Sunni's.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1439 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:08 am to
I don't. He should have listened to Mitt Romeny

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Romney tried to shake Obama’s optimistic narrative about al-Qaeda. “It’s really not on the run. It’s certainly not hiding. This is a group that is now involved in 10 or 20?countries, and it presents an enormous threat to our friends, to the world, to America long term, and we must have a comprehensive strategy to help reject this kind of extremism.”


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Obama countered Romney’s statement with his basic campaign mantra: “We ended the war in Iraq, refocused our attention on those who actually killed us on 9/11. And as a consequence, al-Qaeda’s core leadership has been decimated.”



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Obama scored points later in that debate when he dismissed Romney’s concerns about Iraq. “What I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.” The transcript records Romney sputtering back: “I’m sorry, you actually — there was a — .”


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Obama had the better of that exchange, certainly for a war-weary United States that a few weeks later gave him a new mandate. But looking back, which picture was closer to the truth? Probably Romney’s."


And this guy is a liberal columnist.

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