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re: AZ Senate Passes 'Right to Discriminate' Bill
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:28 pm to asurob1
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:28 pm to asurob1
quote:
asurob1
You still don't get it.
This bill protects freedom and rights of private sector entities and the citizens that work in the private sector.
Private citizens and private businesses don't belong to you or the gov't.
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:29 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:
It sounds neutral and generally applicable.. so good for Arizona
I'd expect nothing less from you. No doubt tonite you will be celebrating.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:30 pm to asurob1
quote:
I mean no one would ever say I can't serve mexicans because it's against my religion to serve coffee to brown people.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen. I'm saying that a business owner who is dumb enough to do this wouldn't be in business for very long.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:30 pm to asurob1
So every business that has a "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone at our discretion" or a "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign is run by evil, discriminating bigots?
Cut the hysterics.
Cut the hysterics.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:31 pm to Sentrius
quote:
You still don't get it.
This bill protects freedom and rights of private sector entities and the citizens that work in the private sector.
Private citizens and private businesses don't belong to you or the gov't.
You still don't get it.
The government is attempting (I say attempting because this will die a blood expensive death in the courts) to make it okay to discriminate based on race, sexual orientation, etc etc etc.
All you have to do now is say selling groceries to black folk is against your religion.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:31 pm to LordSaintly
quote:
I'm not saying it couldn't happen. I'm saying that a business owner who is dumb enough to do this wouldn't be in business for very long.
The governor signs it and it "will" happen.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:31 pm to asurob1
So you're in favor of the federal government forcing a bakery (or another business) to sell a product they don't carry?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:32 pm to BobABooey
quote:
So every business that has a "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone at our discretion" or a "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign is run by evil, discriminating bigots?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:33 pm to asurob1
Your moral equivalency with the black civil rights movement is pretty disgusting.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:33 pm to LordSaintly
Yup. Once again, let the market work.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:33 pm to asurob1
quote:
What part of state ordered and sanctioned discrimination is not the same thing as this bill allowing businesses to serve whoever they want?
This bill takes gov't out of the private sector like it should be. This pic is public sector discrimination.
You're coming off as a drama queen.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:33 pm to GumboPot
quote:
So you're in favor of the federal government forcing a bakery (or another business) to sell a product they don't carry?
I am in favor of the federal government in forcing a bakery to sell products to all citizens regardless of their race, sexual orientation or shoe size.
Once again, your attempt at playing gotcha.
not so bright.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:35 pm to Sentrius
quote:
What part of state ordered and sanctioned discrimination is not the same thing as this bill allowing businesses to serve whoever they want?
This bill takes gov't out of the private sector like it should be. This pic is public sector discrimination.
You're coming off as a drama queen.
wrong.
This bill lets me declare that it's against my religion to serve muslims, mexicans, blacks, gays, women, etc etc etc.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:35 pm to asurob1
quote:
The government is attempting (I say attempting because this will die a blood expensive death in the courts) to make it okay to discriminate based on race, sexual orientation, etc etc etc.
If its in the public sector, I have a huge problem with that.
I don't give a shite if gov't if gov't says its ok in the private sector.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:35 pm to asurob1
quote:The federal government shouldn't force a business to sell anything….
I am in favor of the federal government in forcing a bakery to sell
quote:And if it is are you going to inhibit that person's religious practice?
This bill lets me declare that it's against my religion to serve muslims, mexicans, blacks, gays, women, etc etc etc.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:38 pm to Sentrius
quote:
You still don't get it.
Oh he gets it alright. Obviously he feels minorities need the protection of the white man's government, otherwise they could never make it in this world. It would SUCK to be so pathetic that you need a big brother telling everyone else to play nice with you. You know, come to think of it, that is pretty racist in and of itself.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:38 pm to asurob1
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I am in favor of the federal government in forcing a bakery to sell products to all citizens regardless of their race, sexual orientation or shoe size.
Okay. But there is a difference between discriminating and not offering a particular product or service. You seem to think that not offering a particular product or service is discrimination.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:38 pm to asurob1
quote:
I am in favor of the federal government in forcing a bakery to sell products to all citizens regardless of their race, sexual orientation or shoe size.
So you're in favor of the gov't basically saying frick you, we own you, your labor and your products and we'll force you to do something you don't want to do even when I have not harmed anybody, stole anything or slandered somebody?
Gov't has no business making sure we all hold hands and sing kumbaya. It's not their role.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:39 pm to asurob1
quote:
This bill lets me declare that it's against my religion to serve muslims, mexicans, blacks, gays, women, etc etc etc.
Factually incorrect.
Race, Sex, and Religion are Constitutionally protected classes. So, this law cannot okay that.
Sexual Orientation is NOT.
Now, I am clearly all for gay rights and would be happy for that to be added to a protected class.
But, as of now....it is NOT.
So, that and shoe size WOULD be allowable discrimination items in this case
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:40 pm to asurob1
quote:
This bill lets me declare that it's against my religion to serve muslims, mexicans, blacks, gays, women, etc etc etc.
Good for you.
That's gov't protecting your freedom like they should!
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