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Army tells Dem Congress members to FO regarding removing Confederate names
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:08 pm
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Good. About time they stood up to these SJW blowhards.
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The U.S. Army won't scrub the names of Confederate generals from a base in New York City, military officials told Congress.
A group of Democratic lawmakers asked the Army in June to rename a pair of streets at Fort Hamilton, in Brooklyn, which currently honoring Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson, part of a broader effort to take down Confederate memorials across the country. But the Army rebuffed the appeal.
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After over a century, any effort to rename memorializations on Fort Hamilton would be controversial and divisive," Diane Rendon, an official in the Army's bureau of manpower and reserve affairs, wrote in a July 20 letter. "This is contrary to the nation's original intent in naming these streets, which was the spirit of reconciliation."
Good. About time they stood up to these SJW blowhards.
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:11 pm to bamarep
The army struggled to recruit in the south after the war.
Hence the names.
Hence the names.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:12 pm to bamarep
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the Army's bureau of manpower
Omg omg they said MANpower. BIGOTSSS
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:12 pm to bamarep
Good for them. Lee and Jackson had great military minds. There's no reason to remove them except for politics, which the Army shouldn't be engaging in.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:17 pm to bamarep
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:18 pm to bamarep
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After over a century, any effort to rename memorializations on Fort Hamilton would be controversial and divisive," Diane Rendon, an official in the Army's bureau of manpower and reserve affairs, wrote in a July 20 letter. "This is contrary to the nation's original intent in naming these streets, which was the spirit of reconciliation."
I was thinking about this other day. The Army -could- call attention to the memory of US Army heroes - if they have any. Instead they have Fort Bragg and Fort Lee and Fort Polk. CSA officers. The Army simply ignores its history as part of its organizational values. Weird.
The Marine Corps names its bases after Marine heroes like John LeJeune, Smedley Butler, Roy Geiger and on and on. Every Marine learns what is expected. Marines are immersed in history. Soldiers never hear any.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:18 pm to bamarep
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"This is contrary to the nation's original intent in naming these streets, which was the spirit of reconciliation."
fricking exactly. The people who actually fought against Lee and the Confederates held them in much higher regard and with more honor and respect than leftist ideologues today, which is quite telling.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:21 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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The Army -could- call attention to the memory of US Army heroes - if they have any.
Oh frick off dude
Ya, sure, the Army has zero war heroes.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:23 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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The Marine Corps names its bases after Marine heroes like John LeJeune
And what if LeJeune's ancestors were slave owners?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:23 pm to Centinel
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The Army -could- call attention to the memory of US Army heroes - if they have any.
Oh frick off dude Ya, sure, the Army has zero war heroes.
They take no effort to recognize them.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:29 pm to BugAC
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The Marine Corps names its bases after Marine heroes like John LeJeune
And what if LeJeune's ancestors were slave owners?
You probably never heard of Colin Kelly or Frederick Castle. Whether -their- forebears owned slaves is immaterial.
I always tell this story about a co-worker I had – he was a retired Green Beret major. Former enlisted, 20 years service. One day I asked him, “Do you know what today is?”
No idea.
It was the Army Birthday, June 14. Army guys don’t know their history or care about it.
November 10
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:40 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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They take no effort to recognize them.
Time to lay off the crayons and Elmers.
Have you ever stepped foot on an Army base? Most facilities are named after war heroes and not just a few generals here or there. Many of which were Medal of Honor recipients.
Sorry, the Army isn't a cult and Chesty Puller isn't God.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:42 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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They take no effort to recognize them.
Go on post. Every building, field, or school is named after some guy or another. If the only way to honor them was to name posts after them it would be pretty limited.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:43 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Army guys don’t know their history
There's a lot more to know.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:48 pm to northshorebamaman
It doesnt condense down into one catchy song right?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:52 pm to Pechon
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Have you ever stepped foot on an Army base?
I've been to Fort Bragg. Named for a traitor to the United States. I have also been on Fort Benning, Fort Campbell and Fort McClellan, Fort Leonard Wood and probably a couple of others.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:55 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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I've been to Fort Bragg. Named for a traitor to the United States.
You do understand people felt more loyalty to their States than they did to the United States at that period of time correct?
For Lee and his other officers to not fight for their states would have been the real traitorous move at that period of time.
But then again you're just like most people, applying today's morals and political climate to something that occurred 150 years ago.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:56 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Bragg was fighting invaders from another country
Posted on 8/7/17 at 4:00 pm to Centinel
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I've been to Fort Bragg. Named for a traitor to the United States.
You do understand people felt more loyalty to their States than they did to the United States at that period of time correct?
I understand the Army named a base after a traitor to the United States.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 4:02 pm to gthog61
And Fort Benning.
"What was the reason that induced Georgia to take the step of secession? This reason may be summed up in one single proposition. It was a conviction, a deep conviction on the part of Georgia, that a separation from the North-was the only thing that could prevent the abolition of her slavery. ... If things are allowed to go on as they are, it is certain that slavery is to be abolished. By the time the north shall have attained the power, the black race will be in a large majority, and then we will have black governors, black legislatures, black juries, black everything. Is it to be supposed that the white race will stand for that? It is not a supposable case. ... war will break out everywhere like hidden fire from the earth, and it is probable that the white race, being superior in every respect, may push the other back. ... we will be overpowered and our men will be compelled to wander like vagabonds all over the earth; and as for our women, the horrors of their state we cannot contemplate in imagination. That is the fate which abolition will bring upon the white race. ... We will be completely exterminated, and the land will be left in the possession of the blacks, and then it will go back to a wilderness and become another Africa... Suppose they elevated Charles Sumner to the presidency? Suppose they elevated Fred Douglass, your escaped slave, to the presidency? What would be your position in such an event? I say give me pestilence and famine sooner than that.
— Henry Lewis Benning, Speech of Henry Benning to the Virginia Convention, February 18, 1861.[1][2]
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"What was the reason that induced Georgia to take the step of secession? This reason may be summed up in one single proposition. It was a conviction, a deep conviction on the part of Georgia, that a separation from the North-was the only thing that could prevent the abolition of her slavery. ... If things are allowed to go on as they are, it is certain that slavery is to be abolished. By the time the north shall have attained the power, the black race will be in a large majority, and then we will have black governors, black legislatures, black juries, black everything. Is it to be supposed that the white race will stand for that? It is not a supposable case. ... war will break out everywhere like hidden fire from the earth, and it is probable that the white race, being superior in every respect, may push the other back. ... we will be overpowered and our men will be compelled to wander like vagabonds all over the earth; and as for our women, the horrors of their state we cannot contemplate in imagination. That is the fate which abolition will bring upon the white race. ... We will be completely exterminated, and the land will be left in the possession of the blacks, and then it will go back to a wilderness and become another Africa... Suppose they elevated Charles Sumner to the presidency? Suppose they elevated Fred Douglass, your escaped slave, to the presidency? What would be your position in such an event? I say give me pestilence and famine sooner than that.
— Henry Lewis Benning, Speech of Henry Benning to the Virginia Convention, February 18, 1861.[1][2]
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