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re: Are corporations people?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:43 am to jimmy the leg
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:43 am to jimmy the leg
Try again.....
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In the United States. As a matter of interpretation of the word "person" in the Fourteenth Amendment, U.S. courts have extended certain constitutional protections to corporations
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:13 am to texashorn
quote:Sure, but if you're going to delve into hypothetical conflict, then disallow a hypothetical solution, then continue to argue that the conflict will not be resolved, then it's clear where the game is heading.
Umm, no. That was the principal who said that all religions were being accommodated in one room for the same 30 minutes.
quote:No. They were variations based on your hypotheticals. You change the circumstances but require the response to remain constant. That's fine, but it's clear that we were going to reach a certain outcome.
You took up for that assertion then started making up variant accommodations that presumably would not be required if you truly did believe he school was accommodating all religions in one room over 30 minutes.
quote:Now this is a flat out lie. I did no such thing in our discussion.
You also started differentiating between required and optional religious practices and scaled rights based on that hierarchy.
You need to quit lying about my stances. What is wrong with you?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:39 am to boosiebadazz
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What if my corporation subscribed to a religion that dictated I donate all revenue to charitable causes.
You wouldn't be in business long.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:18 am to Masterag
This notion that "corporations are people" is a laughable logically fallacy.
Fallacy of composition - Wikipedia
Fallacy of composition - Wikipedia
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:20 am to Masterag
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Masterag
Let me get this straight. You started a thread to ask
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Are corporations people?
And then you leave? I guess a simple yes/no answer is all this little guy wanted.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:23 am to boosiebadazz
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I've chartered three corporations. One is Hindu, one is a Jew, and one identifies as Christian. .
Liar. You actually thought this was humorous?
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So many options to challenge secular laws and regulations.
LOL. With no financial means with which to attempt to challenge.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:03 am to Masterag
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Yes or no
Since corporations are comprised of people, yes.
Now, answer this question.
Are unions people?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:15 am to LSU2a
quote:Not really. It's just given the entity certain rights and responsibilities. It is comprised of individuals, who have rights, but a random indivdual's view isn't inferred to be the view of the entire entity. But if a company makes some political statement, the government can't censor it under the guise of not having rights. Therefore, it has rights to do such things.
This notion that "corporations are people" is a laughable logically fallacy.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:19 am to Masterag
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Yes
It's a ridiculously easy question. Folks get it wrong because Marxists have been demonizing corporations for almost 200 years.
Corporations are 100% owned, run and staffed by people. There are no corporations that are not people.
They are recognized under the law as a "fictional" person. Corporations can be taxed, criminally charged and fined just as folks. What they can't do that people can do is vote, but individually of course they can do that too - just not as a collective.
Corporations are groups of people, typically with the intent of engaging in business and making a profit. Even non-profit corporations have owners, board members, executives and staff.
Corporations are people. It's the easiest question of the day.
(Government is a special type of corporation, and government is people, too.)
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:22 am to Masterag
They're juridical persons and have been since Justintian was Emperor of the Byzantine Empire
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:22 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Remember corporations, composed of people who are actively involved in its existence and decisions, aren't legal persons, because of an interpretation of a "living, breathing" document.
Corporations are people. It's the easiest question of the day.
Figure that one out.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:24 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:24 am to boosiebadazz
quote:Kinda proves corporations are "people".
I've chartered three corporations.
quote:The corporation is none of those things. However... if it's owner(s) (i.e., you) want to operate them in different manners, that's perfectly fine.
One is Hindu, one is a Jew, and one identifies as Christian.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:24 am to mahdragonz
quote:Do you expect them to follow the law?
Can you execute one?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:25 am to Wtodd
The question is are peope corporations?
A riddle wrapped up inside an enigma
A riddle wrapped up inside an enigma
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:25 am to TrebleHook
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but unions are good and corporations are bad
Look at the decline of unions and the increase in corporations as compared to salaries. You can then answer that honestly.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:11 pm to gthog61
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Yes, legally corporations are people
rather basic concept
It was designed that way to protect the people at the top.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:19 pm to buckeye_vol
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Not really. It's just given the entity certain rights and responsibilities
The statement "corporations are people" is both a logical fallacy and a practical falsehood. You can neither apply the attributes of a person to a corporation nor apply the atributes of a corporation to a person. Simply because certain rights apply to persons does not mean you can attribute those rights to a corporation.
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It is comprised of individuals, who have rights, but a random indivdual's view isn't inferred to be the view of the entire entity.
You keep making an argument based on a well established logical fallacy. I guess we should allow corporations as a singular entity to serve as jurors, adopt children, marry, vote, etc.
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But if a company makes some political statement, the government can't censor it under the guise of not having rights. Therefore, it has rights to do such things.
People have rights, corporations are not people. Your entire argument keeps devolving into the same fallacy. A logical equivalence is to say "all people must eat to survive, thus a corporation must eat to survive."
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:32 pm to boosiebadazz
You should be ashamed. You know anyone who has taken a commercial law course can dissect each of your silly gotcha questions. The courts have addressed them as well. Why play these games? Intentionally disingenuous?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:41 pm to BBONDS25
Why'd the Court limit the ruling?
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