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re: April 2014 ties for warmest April on record...

Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Can you provide us with data trends and charts from the year 1321 - 1414? I'd like to see what the world temperature was back then and how accurate those temperature readings were.
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Concede?

You have done zero research whatsoever on the accuracy of thermometers.
Do you see where a problem has been unroofed?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89513 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:15 pm to
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basically you're saying that the laws of thermodynamics dont exist anymore.



I wish I could say I've never accused him of taking this position... but that would be a lie.

Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
93714 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:16 pm to
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LINK /


I tired to Google. I couldn't find any weather information or numbers for the time period that I requested. Can you not help me? Do you not have access to these numbers from back then? Are there any charts or graphs available from the time frame I would like to see?

Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:16 pm to
This kind of stuff is paralyzing.

The libs eat it up as proof of global warming.

The conservatives laugh and say it's nothing.

Reality is it shouldn't even matter. We need to make extreme changes, paradigm shifting changes to the way we live on this Earth regardless of how factual or relevant studies like these are.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:17 pm to
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Water still freezes at 0.
Which raises that darned "Antarctic record sea ice extent" conundrum again.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:18 pm to
Thank God winter if finally over!
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:19 pm to
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Thank God winter if finally over!
No shite.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Add in the fact, now pay attention as a real scientist educates you, that water has an exceedingly high heat capacity...

Really?

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and for sea ice to grow at that level would mean there could be NO warming at all, but rather COOLING.


... yet the thermometers indicate the Antarctic ocean as a whole has been warming.


So your theory would appear to need some re-working.


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yet the land, which as a high albedo, and is subject to hourly and daily fluctuations in temperature from the SUN...warmed enough to melt one of the largest ice sheets on earth irrevocably.

basically you're saying that the laws of thermodynamics dont exist anymore.




Uhh, no. I'm not. I have no idea where you even get that.



Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:20 pm to
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. Water still freezes at 0.


not salt water....it freezes at a lower temperature. hence the sea ice conundrum again.

Seriously, how are you this stupid to not know basic scientific facts?
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:22 pm to
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... yet the thermometers indicate the Antarctic ocean as a whole has been warming.

So your theory would appear to need some re-working.


salt water freezes at just about -2 C. Thats NEGATIVE.

How can the water be warming, and then cool enough to go below zero to allow sea ice formation.

IT CANT frickING HAPPEN.

Posted by TheJacer
Member since Nov 2012
789 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:23 pm to
The scientists aren't stupid, they're dishonest.


You're stupid.


Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:23 pm to
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not salt water....it freezes at a lower temperature. hence the sea ice conundrum again.

Seriously, how are you this stupid to not know basic scientific facts?


That's why you don't use salt water to calibrate a thermometer to zero degrees. duh.




BTW - Didn't you just say that if more ice is forming, it MUST be because the water is cooling?


Yet here you're suggesting salinity may play a factor.



Which is it?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Water still freezes at 0.
quote:

and for sea ice to grow at that level would mean there could be NO warming at all, but rather COOLING.
... yet the thermometers indicate the Antarctic ocean as a whole has been warming.


You cannot make this stuff up!




Wait . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . apparently you CAN make this stuff up!
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34901 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:24 pm to
So Tuba...what's the plan? Authoritarian Socialist Obama. Frickin whole thing is falling apart; so we shut what's left of the economy down with mega-taxes that we send to Third World Dictators.

Wise up buddy. There was a thread about the Fusion Reactors coming on line asap just the other day. We'll fix this stuff to the degree that it can be controlled...but it's bs to thrown in with the World Socialist/social justice Theocrats.

Geez!
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4137 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:26 pm to
the plan -
extintion of humanity

alternate plan -
convert to Amish
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:26 pm to
quote:



salt water freezes at just about -2 C. Thats NEGATIVE.


Really? "-" means negative? Jeez you're smart.

quote:


How can the water be warming, and then cool enough to go below zero to allow sea ice formation.

IT CANT frickING HAPPEN.



Except that IT IS. That is OBSERVED FACT.



Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

So Tuba...what's the plan?


More research
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:27 pm to
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SpidermanTUba


Pathetically dishonest. What do you REALLY do for a living? No fricking way you're any kind of scientist.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:27 pm to
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BTW - Didn't you just say that if more ice is forming, it MUST be because the water is cooling?


Yet here you're suggesting salinity may play a factor.



Which is it?


wut?

salt water, hence sea ice, freezes at below zero.

The water around Antarctica, where SEA ice forms...is saltwater.

Sea ice has been growing, which means water must be COOLER.

Yet you cite a thermometer reading. I say the gear is fricked. Source: Oceanographer
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:28 pm to
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Yet here you're suggesting salinity may play a factor.
Ball's in your court TUba. Is Antarctic Ocean salinity declining?
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