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Any theories as to why Trump supports ACHA?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:36 am
1. I would be less puzzled by this if not for the fact that He saw right through the bullshite Paris Accord and what a load of pork it was. Pork that the American taxpayer footed the bill on.
2. I would be less puzzled by this if not for the fact that He saw right through the generals and Military-Industrial complex and neocons thirst for increased engagement in Syria and the Middle East at the expense of the American taxpayer.
3. I would be less puzzled by this if not for the fact that He saw right through the globalists and their desire to expand multinational trade agreements like TPP.
So how/why does Trump correctly assess and boldly move in the correct manner on both Paris and foreign intervention (both outside the box decisions that no other candidate would have acted on) but NOT on the disaster commonly referred to as CuckCare/RyanCare/TrumpCare?
It just boggles my mind, mates. That I can tell you.
2. I would be less puzzled by this if not for the fact that He saw right through the generals and Military-Industrial complex and neocons thirst for increased engagement in Syria and the Middle East at the expense of the American taxpayer.
3. I would be less puzzled by this if not for the fact that He saw right through the globalists and their desire to expand multinational trade agreements like TPP.
So how/why does Trump correctly assess and boldly move in the correct manner on both Paris and foreign intervention (both outside the box decisions that no other candidate would have acted on) but NOT on the disaster commonly referred to as CuckCare/RyanCare/TrumpCare?
It just boggles my mind, mates. That I can tell you.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 10:38 am
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:37 am to SirWinston
Because he wants anything he can point to as a win. Even if it's really another loss.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:38 am to JuiceTerry
But he could have done nothing and let ACA collapse and then point to that as a "win".
He could have used this political capital on tax cuts or infrastructure. I guess it is just a rookie mistake or bad advice from his staff?
He could have used this political capital on tax cuts or infrastructure. I guess it is just a rookie mistake or bad advice from his staff?
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:38 am to SirWinston
Obamacare is a disaster and moving forward with an actual replacement is a necessity for Americans
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:39 am to SirWinston
He hates Obama and thinks that destroying something with his name on it is a win, regardless of how many Americans it hurts.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:40 am to BamaAtl
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regardless of how many Americans it hurts.
i'm not a Trumpkin and dislike teh ACHA
however, this law would likely help as many and possibly more Americans than it hurts
for instance, it would help me and decrease the "age tax" of the ACA
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:41 am to BamaAtl
My best guess is that he's liberal on healthcare and genuinely wants to cover everybody. That he was just railing against Obamacare to help get elected.
I think that makes the most sense. He's talked up single-payer before. I think he's trying to play this down the middle and pass a different bill AND get a "win" over Obamacare.
I think that makes the most sense. He's talked up single-payer before. I think he's trying to play this down the middle and pass a different bill AND get a "win" over Obamacare.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:42 am to SirWinston
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That he was just railing against Obamacare to help get elected.
this should be obvious by now
only Republicans are mandated to follow their campaign promises, though
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'm not a Trumpkin and dislike teh ACHA
however, this law would likely help as many and possibly more Americans than it hurts
for instance, it would help me and decrease the "age tax" of the ACA
I'm a Trumpkin and I hate this bill, but I'm willing to listen to how it's better than ACA. I'm not asking you to point out the reasons why, I just didn't want to research it if it wasn't going to pass.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:42 am to SirWinston
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the disaster commonly referred to as CuckCare/RyanCare/TrumpCare?
Trump has always been weak on healthcare. He was weak on healthcare during the election and remains weak now. Remember, "we can't let them die in the streets"?
That was not why I voted for Trump.
I was/am expecting congress to pull Trump right on healthcare. However it's disappointing to see that congress is more left on healthcare than Trump has ever proclaimed to be.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:44 am to SirWinston
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, but I'm willing to listen to how it's better than ACA.
they're both terrible and the difference isn't really worth discussing
the problem with the ACHA is the GOP will put the target on its back. they should just admit the ACA was too monstrous of a law and due to the way Obama and the DEMs wrote/implemented it that they can't repeal it. let it die
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:45 am to SirWinston
quote:Just pay attention to the language. Right now it's "Republicans must come through on their promises to repeal and replace". Once they pass this shitty bill, it will become "I have followed through on my promise to repeal and replace!".
But he could have done nothing and let ACA collapse and then point to that as a "win".
He just wants credit and affirmation. Something his parents never gave him.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:45 am to SirWinston
quote:All establishment POS do.
Any theories as to why Trump supports ACHA?
quote:Is that why he proposed a $54 billion spending increase for the military?
2. I would be less puzzled by this if not for the fact that He saw right through the generals and Military-Industrial complex and neocons thirst for increased engagement in Syria and the Middle East at the expense of the American taxpayer.
Is that why he continues the establishment agenda in the Middle East?
quote:It boggles my mind how anyone can be fooled by this clown.
It just boggles my mind, mates. That I can tell you.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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the problem with the ACHA is the GOP will put the target on its back. they should just admit the ACA was too monstrous of a law and due to the way Obama and the DEMs wrote/implemented it that they can't repeal it. let it die
Yup this was such a no brainer of a strategy, but unfortunately Paul Ryan had lobbyists to appease.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
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That was not why I voted for Trump.
I was/am expecting congress to pull Trump right on healthcare. However it's disappointing to see that congress is more left on healthcare than Trump has ever proclaimed to be.
Solid take - I'm right there with you. Ryan is the absolute worst.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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however, this law would likely help as many and possibly more Americans than it hurts
Link? Not a single person believes this, except you apparently.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:48 am to SirWinston
He is a man of action.
Therefore, he abhors inaction.
Therefore, he abhors inaction.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:49 am to SirWinston
You have to remember that Paris was non-binding. TPP was still being negotiated so Trump didn't have to kill something already in play. Those agreements affect all Americans, but in an indirect, not so tangible way.
With healthcare, you're playing with live ammo that affects a lot of people. That's the difference.
With healthcare, you're playing with live ammo that affects a lot of people. That's the difference.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:49 am to SirWinston
yeah it's much easier to say "we were wrong during implementation and now realize the law is simply an invulnerable monster that we can't kill" than to pass a shitty, watered-down version of the ACA and then have the failure of government takeover blamed on them for generations
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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let it die
The problem is it doesn't die without Republicans actively killing it. So either way, Republicans own it.
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