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Any chance Trump deports European DACA recipients with no criminal charges
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:06 pm
that were brought here legally and about to receive a green card within 12 months?
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:11 pm to Masterag
hell I hope so
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:11 pm to Masterag
Yes
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:12 pm to Masterag
Not a chance.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:12 pm to golfntiger32
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hell I hope so
why?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:13 pm to BhamDore
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Not a chance.
yeah i can't see him deporting white people who haven't broken any laws... but you never know what you're gonna get with this guy.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:16 pm to Masterag
THey were not brought here legally. Obama basically ignored established immigration laws to implement DACA. These people took a risk and came up short. They cut in line.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:25 pm to golfntiger32
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THey were not brought here legally.
you obviously are ignorant of the facts. not all DACA recipients were brought here illegally.
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They cut in line.
like i said, not all did. some received visas and came and started businesses, and still run them. productive, taxpaying members of society who have broken no laws, whatsoever.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:31 pm to Masterag
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that were brought here legally and about to receive a green card within 12 months?
If brought here legally they would not be DACA.
Was your goal here to try to be cute or ignorant?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:36 pm to Masterag
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ike i said, not all did. some received visas and came and started businesses, and still run them. productive, taxpaying members of society who have broken no laws, whatsoever.
If they overstayed their Visa then they broke the law. Kick them out
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:36 pm to igoringa
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If brought here legally they would not be DACA.
obviously i'm dealing with a bunch of fricking morons here.
it is a FACT that one can be brought here legally and receive DACA. like, indisputable, true, not false, demonstrable.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:38 pm to Masterag
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it is a FACT that one can be brought here legally and receive DACA. like, indisputable, true, not false, demonstrable.
It is also a fact that one can overstay their visa and that is a crime. like, indisputable, true, not false, demonstrable.
Besides, why single out Europeans? Immigrants are immigrants, no matter their creed, religion, race, or ethnicity.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:42 pm to Texas Weazel
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It is also a fact that one can overstay their visa and that is a crime
there are also work permits and student visas that allow young people to stay after their visa is expired while they await their green cards.
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Besides, why single out Europeans?
it's personal
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:50 pm to Masterag
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there are also work permits and student visas that allow young people to stay after there visa is expired while they await their green cards.
If that's the case, then they wouldn't need DACA, so what's the point of this thread?
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it's personal
I see. And I can see it being personal if it's family or friends who are in that situation. It sucks that people have to commit a crime in search of a better life. But rules are rules. You can't have it both ways. Can't make examptions for Vlad, Zhang Wei, François, Jose, or Raj. Either you're for all leaving or all staying (minus criminals and government handout recipients of course).
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:57 pm to Masterag
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there are also work permits and student visas that allow young people to stay after their visa is expired while they await their green cards.
If they are on a visa or work permit - they are not DACA. By definition DACA is for individuals who are undocumented (hence deferred action).
If you are DACA you either entered illegally or illegally overstayed a visa or permit or tourist clause. There are zero people in the US that are DACA that did not break a law. Zero.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:24 am to Texas Weazel
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If that's the case, then they wouldn't need DACA, so what's the point of this thread?
let's just say their legal counsel advised them to forego the work permit and register under DACA in order to get a green card quicker.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:14 am to Masterag
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let's just say their legal counsel advised them to forego the work permit and register under DACA in order to get a green card quicker.
Well that sucks. The first DACA recipient has been detained (due to possible gang membership). I know his case is different than most DACA applicants, but it still makes you wonder what exactly is going to happen moving forward. Depending on the mood Trump is in, DACA could go away with the stroke of a pen and mass deportations could ensue. And because every DACA applicant handed over their information, the government knows where they live and could deport them as soon as their deferment ends.
If I was your European friends, I wouldn't panic, but I would be concerned and hope Trump doesn't have one of his "Mexico" days.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 7:08 am to Masterag
You're relying on a report by an individual that is as of now unsubstantiated for a shitty unlinked thread that is only obliquely related to the event which you are referencing.
This is a pretty bad thread.
This is a pretty bad thread.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 7:13 am to Masterag
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let's just say their legal counsel advised them to forego the work permit and register under DACA in order to get a green card quicker.
So legal counsel was for them to go from documented to illegal so they can attempt a different status?
What state bar do we need to inform on this practice?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 7:19 am to Masterag
I certainly hope so. They can go to the back of the line with everyone else, they arent special.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 7:20 am
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