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ANTIFA's principles: How is anarcho-communism not a self-defeating principle?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:45 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:45 am
Apparently ANTIFA relies on anarcho-communism as a guiding principle. "From those according to ability, to those according to need"
Maybe I'm drawing too many conclusions from the name alone, but communism is impossible to enforce without a government outside of the book Utopia, so why would anyone buy off on anarcho-communism as something that is even possible?
Maybe I'm drawing too many conclusions from the name alone, but communism is impossible to enforce without a government outside of the book Utopia, so why would anyone buy off on anarcho-communism as something that is even possible?
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:46 am to Ross
brah...most of those dudes are just there to get the hippie pussy....
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:47 am to Ross
they only believe in "anarchism" as much as it means "destroying the current government and institutions marginalizing people"
it's just a PR trick to avoid being called what they are: communists
it's just a PR trick to avoid being called what they are: communists
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:48 am to Ross
quote:
com·mu·nism
'kämy??niz?m/Submit
noun
a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
What part of this requires a government?
I think ALL communism is anarcho communism.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:49 am to Ross
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Apparently ANTIFA relies on anarcho-communism as a guiding principle
In Europe sure. I don't think the "movement" here is so entrenched in ideology beyond identifying with who they aren't. I could be mistaken.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:49 am to Collegedropout
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What part of this requires a government?
simple question: how do you prevent private competition and property ownership from occurring?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:49 am to Ross
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but communism is impossible to enforce without a government outside of the book Utopia, so why would anyone buy off on anarcho-communism as something that is even possible?
Because the "government" in such systems does very well - those officials are among the elite - and it isn't through merit, it's by force.
So, to answer your question, those people of Antifa have either been convinced or convinced themselves they will be among the elite government officials.
Classic sheople.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:49 am to Collegedropout
All of it requires a government because few people would willingly give up their property in the name of equality, in my opinion.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
At least that definition of the name somewhat makes sense and is consistent with their actions.
However, if they actually think we can sustain communism without government guns pointing at people's heads, I have to ask how often we have to watch history prove itself.
However, if they actually think we can sustain communism without government guns pointing at people's heads, I have to ask how often we have to watch history prove itself.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:56 am to Ross
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However, if they actually think we can sustain communism without government guns pointing at people's heads, I have to ask how often we have to watch history prove itself.
just go to my question to the person claiming it's anti-government
it's not possible to maintain that society without collective force. that's government
and that's ignoring the formation of the society, which will require A LOT of force/killing
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:57 am to Ross
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why would anyone buy off on anarcho-communism as something that is even possible?
Because they don't understand the meaning of words.
anarcho-communism is like saying in-out, high-low, up-down, round square, etc.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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simple question: how do you prevent private competition and property ownership from occurring?
The way it's always been done in communist hell holes.... with the barrel of a gun
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:02 am to Ross
These Antifa dorks are Lefty virtue signalers.
They are simply wired different than Righties.
Their brains have a chemical imbalance that makes them self-loathe and have this insatiable desire to impose their will on their opponents (those not like them) in the form of moral indignation and virtue signaling.
They desperately seek anything they can turn into an injustice solely so they can make themselves feel better by acting like their efforts to seek and get justice makes them morally superior.
Blacks, other minorities, chided religions of minorities, and all the perceived slights against these groups become the pet cause ammunition for fighting this war for virtue they've created.
They could give two shits about blacks possibly being offended by Confederate monuments. All they really care about is using the concept as an excuse to score virtue points and make themselves feel superior to their opponents.
They are simply wired different than Righties.
Their brains have a chemical imbalance that makes them self-loathe and have this insatiable desire to impose their will on their opponents (those not like them) in the form of moral indignation and virtue signaling.
They desperately seek anything they can turn into an injustice solely so they can make themselves feel better by acting like their efforts to seek and get justice makes them morally superior.
Blacks, other minorities, chided religions of minorities, and all the perceived slights against these groups become the pet cause ammunition for fighting this war for virtue they've created.
They could give two shits about blacks possibly being offended by Confederate monuments. All they really care about is using the concept as an excuse to score virtue points and make themselves feel superior to their opponents.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:36 pm to BeefDawg
ANTIFA to me has no real central message right now except straight up French Revolution style "bring it down"
But they are fighting for communism. Why has communism caught on as desirable? Sure capitalism has its flaws, but communism isn't a zero sum game either. The government wins everything and then everyone else is reduced to subjugation.
But they are fighting for communism. Why has communism caught on as desirable? Sure capitalism has its flaws, but communism isn't a zero sum game either. The government wins everything and then everyone else is reduced to subjugation.
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