re: Andrew Sullivan: "We're no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us."

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Where did Sullivan get his information?

And what source did you check? Where did you get YOUR information?

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If you read the additional posts that are linked, the assertion is made that most, or a substantial portion, of the pressure against Eich actually came from heterosexual young activists who fancy themselves as progressive and enlightened.

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Citation? Link? You may be correct but I haven't seen it.

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As was the website OKCupid?


Not a gay rights organization.

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Sounds like 'market forces' caused Mr. Eich to resign.

I am sure all of the free market Conservatives here shouldn't' have a problem ?

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If you read the additional posts that are linked, the assertion is made that most, or a substantial portion, of the pressure against Eich actually came from heterosexual young activists who fancy themselves as progressive and enlightened.

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Does it matter where the bigotry and narrow mindedness came from? Intolerance is intolerance.

Sullivan's comments, which I agree with, are aimed at the "gay rights movement." One doesn't have to be gay to be part of the gay rights movement."

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21st century McCarthyism

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Close enough to make thinking people very uncomfortable.

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Andrew Sullivan was a Republican years ago. What turned him was that he became a single issue voter and the single issue was gay marriage

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Andrew Sullivan doesn't even know what he believes.

This statement is one of the few times he's ever been correct.

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"How quickly has liberty been transmuted into orthodoxy. For the entirety of human history, gay marriage was a veritable non-issue — a thought that had occurred seriously to nobody and for which there was neither a meaningful constituency nor measurable pressure. In the space of a decade it has moved from a fringe and novel proposition to a moral imperative — and, now, to fodder for the new inquisitors. That the issue has now achieved the approval of a narrow majority is to my mind no bad thing. That the movement’s more vocal champions have started bludgeoning their enemies one and a half minutes into their still-fragile victory speaks tremendously ill of them, and does not portend well for the republic"

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Brilliant. That gives me some modicum of hope.

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Andrew Sullivan doesn't even know what he believes. This statement is one of the few times he's ever been correct.

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I've read more A.S. than most here prior to his turning left. Here are a couple of insights into his earlier writings...

a. He definitely believes that male homosexuality is from birth, not learned. He didn't speak to female lesbians on this. His personal memory was just prior to puberty wanting to become a doctor so that he could lie in bed with an attractive unconscious male patient and snuggle. He had those sexual urges before he could have sex.

b. His 'normalization' idea came from family Holiday dinners. Like all of us there were 3 generations. The old folks, married, or perhaps one spouse deceased. Then the adults, married with young kids. When he brought his male partner they were accepted with careful politeness but they were not normal. They didn't fit into the traditional scene. And they very much want to.

Now Eich, needs Rehabilitation

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It's amazing how history is repeating itself. Slowly, but surely. I wonder when we we'll have our Night of the Long Knives and Night of Broken Glass