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re: Andrew Sullivan: "We're no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us."

Posted on 4/4/14 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 8:51 pm to
Where did Sullivan get his information?

And what source did you check? Where did you get YOUR information?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 8:53 pm to
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I agree with Andrew Sullivan.



You are such a liar. You were ready to tar and feather the guy from Duck Dynasty for his religious views.
Posted by Toddy
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 8:58 pm to
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And what source did you check? Where did you get YOUR information?



I'm friends with Jeremy Hooper, a spokesperson for GLAAD. NOM has announced a boycott of Mozilla on their website.

There simply is no proof of any major gay rights organization behind this. Because they aren't. The only group calling for a boycott, which was announced publicly today, is NOM.
Posted by Yat27
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 9:00 pm to
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I'm friends with Jeremy Hooper, a spokesperson for GLAAD.


Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 9:02 pm to
It would probably be a good idea for GLAAD to write a letter similar to Andrews then.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 9:07 pm to
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It appears to me that gay rights organizations are being unfairly criticized and accused of something they DID NOT DO.
What was their stance regarding the Cupid.com call? Regarding Eich's workplace demeanor/professionalism/tolerance?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not bad-mouthing gay rights organizations. Not at all. However, this is an issue set in motion under the auspices (rightly or wrongly) of their efforts. Passivity does not exclude culpability.


Posted by Toddy
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 9:20 pm to
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It would probably be a good idea for GLAAD to write a letter similar to Andrews then.



GLAAD, HRC, Freedom to Marry, etc. should distance themselves from this, I agree.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 9:36 pm to
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I'm friends with Jeremy Hooper, a spokesperson for GLAAD. NOM has announced a boycott of Mozilla on their website. There simply is no proof of any major gay rights organization behind this. Because they aren't. The only group calling for a boycott, which was announced publicly today, is NOM.


The way I understood it was that the pressure came from pro gay employees within the company.
Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 9:54 pm to
On Brett Baiers show this evening there was a part of the discussions of the group. George Will was merciless on pointing out the overwhelming status of hypocritical status under which the alphabet soup groups play around in the political realm sand box. They definitely illuminate their passion for displaying only their(all leftists) side of things will be tolerated in the political realm, any disagreement means you are a dangerous minded person and must be silenced ASAP.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:24 pm to
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The way I understood it was that the pressure came from pro gay employees within the company.


that's the way I understood it as well. Which really presented a paradox to Eich, he believed total acceptance of differing viewpoints was the only way to continue furthering the org's mission, but ultimately resigned to keep dissension regarding his view from tearing the organization apart.
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:29 pm to
Dissension?
From whom?
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:31 pm to
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I just checked and NO gay rights organization was calling for his resignation or a boycott of Mozilla. Certainly no credible organization. And Firfox just tweeted that is was Eich's decision to step down . No one "forced" him to.


Criminals generally don't advertise coercion.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:31 pm to
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Dissension?
From whom?


mozilla staff
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61295 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:19 pm to
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NOM has announced a boycott of Mozilla on their website.
Who is NOM?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:22 pm to
National organization for marriage.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 12:02 am to
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Like the insensitive ideologues who have villainized the working poor(Minimum wage earners) & lazy Union whiners:-); "He can always go work for another company" Mr. Eich can always work for Hobby Lobby ,etc.... He's not entitled to this job.



This is complete bullshite. And you are a complete piece of shite for typing it. Hope you lose your job. you are not entitled to it.

frickwad.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9619 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:42 am to
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The only thing is I have yet to see which major gay rights organization was calling for his resignation and was pushing for a boycott. I certainly didn't see anything


Yes they were. As was the website OKCupid? Or something like that.

I lost all respect for Andrew Sullivan when he made a cottage industry of trying to prove that Trig Palin was not Sarah's son.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9619 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:52 am to
Charles C. W. Cooke who is Pro-Gay Marriage BTW, on this lesson in Left Wing tolerance:
quote:


Eich was shown precisely how “supportive and welcoming” Mozilla was: He was urged to leave.

The entreaties ranged from the contradictory to the sinister. Wrapping her intolerance and hysteria in the vapid, saccharine, and malleable language of the graduate-school prospectus, an employee named Sydney Moyer explained on Twitter that because the company offered a “big, open, and messy” “culture of openness and inclusion,” her new CEO should be forced to go away. Once upon a time, individuals who could not square their consciences with their circumstances saw fit to remove themselves. But, safely ensconced under the new cultural carapace, Moyers evidently recognized that she had all the power. I “cannot reconcile having Brendan Eich as CEO with our company’s culture and mission,” Moyers wrote. “Brendan, please step down.”



LINK
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 6:55 am to
No minority or protected class is any more tolerant than anyone else on the whole. Of course a majority will appear more intolerant based on sheer numbers alone if we case by case base any circumstance. Those at the top demagogue this to the minions, and selling this to the most emotional protected class base on the planet is not a tough chore.

This goes far beyond rights, this is about power & money. The gays on top (little pun) are as shrewed as any white male hetero CEO there is. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a dolt not worth his weight in glitter.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 8:00 am to
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It appears to me that gay rights organizations are being unfairly criticized


Any criticism of a gay "rights" group is fair...because gays have the same rights as anyone else.
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