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Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:02 pm to Iosh
Trumps gonna make anime illegal
say goodbye to your waifu, otaku bitch
say goodbye to your waifu, otaku bitch
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:05 pm to Iosh
Assuming this is actually accurate and not just another trial balloon.
I guess they've figured they have no real hope at approval above the low 40s so they might as well appease the morons and bigots.
I guess they've figured they have no real hope at approval above the low 40s so they might as well appease the morons and bigots.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:10 pm to Iosh
So much for the lie about Trump being LGBT friendly.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:12 pm to montanagator
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So much for the lie about Trump being LGBT friendly.
Come on.
At this point I think we can say that every single promise he made during the campaign was a lie.
He became a politician (ie swamp creature) through and through saying anything to get votes.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:20 pm to asurob1
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At this point I think we can say that every single promise he made during the campaign was a lie.
TO be fair he has given the Muslim ban all the effort he can. And if it weren't for those pesky federal judges, he would have gotten away with it!
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:24 pm to montanagator
quote:There are competing factions within the US and it's hard to be "friendly" to all of them at the same time.
So much for the lie about Trump being LGBT friendly.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:29 pm to montanagator
quote:This is a classic example of how the left manipulates language to mislead the public.
So much for the lie about Trump being LGBT friendly.
Philosophically, you can be both pro-lgbt and against laws which prohibit business owners from choosing who to serve. If I value BOTH the rights of LGBT to do their thing, AND private property rights, how can I think differently?
is it "anti-mormon" to pass a law which allows you not to answer your door if they ring the bell?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Philosophically, you can be both pro-Civil Rights and against laws which prohibit business owners from choosing who to serve. If I value BOTH the rights of the negro to do their thing, AND private property rights, how can I think differently?
The PT circa 1960
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:43 pm to Jake88
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How is he not? Isn't this order simply allowing more freedom to private business owners? Why not protect religious freedoms as well?
I know he doesn't personally want to attack LGBTQ people, but I know some in his administration don't feel the same.
And of course, I agree that religious freedom in private enterprise should be protected. But if you work in government, you should not be allowed to make a discrimination. But if it's your private business. do what you want.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:45 pm to montanagator
Sigh...do you not understand what mandated segregation/discrimination is? It was mandated then, and there is ample evidence that whites and blacks often worked around those laws because it made sense economically to do so.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:59 pm to gamatt53
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So you'd rather earn less money and turn down business
That's going to throw a wrench into the old supply curve model
That's probably not true at all. I would imagine most companies that have supported this sort of thing have done their customer segmentation.
I dislike Trump almost to the point of hating him, but we need to see the details of this. Removing LGBT as a protected class would be a nice first step. Removing the entire concept of protected class would be the real coup de grace.
Markets can be sticky and they are often dysfunctional, but over the long run, they do work if given the chance.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 12:04 am
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:02 am to Parmen
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But if you work in government, you should not be allowed to make a discrimination. But if it's your private business. do what you want
We agree.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:03 am to montanagator
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Philosophically, you can be both pro-Civil Rights and against laws which prohibit business owners from choosing who to serve. If I value BOTH the rights of the negro to do their thing, AND private property rights, how can I think differently?
The PT circa 1960
And completely philosophically consistent.
It isn't a crazy idea to think that the interest of the private establishment supersede those of the state. A good chunk of the faults of modern governments arise exactly from opposing that conviction.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 5:25 am to AbuTheMonkey
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And completely philosophically consistent.
Exactly. Somewhere along the line we decided it was okay for the government to pick and choose who in the United States was deserving of protections
Now I'm sure where liberals will respond with chapter and verse of why these groups or so Worthy. But the bottom line is the United States has unwittingly created legal bias in the name of eliminating bias.
No one would prevent gay private business owners from rejecting the business of Westboro. And if you think that's too extreme example I doubt very many would prevent that same gay Baker from refusing the service of almost any prominent conservative organization
And I'm completely fine with that. I don't think anyone should have a right to someone else's labor.
And I always loved this stupid responses where people tried to critique a business owner's decision making process on this. You no comments that asked if the owner grills all of his customers to make sure they meet his standards? That's irrelevant because it would apply in the other examples also.
Right now was just a little bit of Googling you can find stories where we not only okay but cheer obvious discrimination if the result is one that is currently politically correct. Stories about companies where all of the executives are women we're all of the executives are black. They are all portrayed in a positive light.
I 100% support a woman's right to hire nothing but women executives or a black man's right to hire all black employees. I actually no personal examples of the above
Every American should have that right. And if it's bad business let the market sort it out
Posted on 5/3/17 at 5:47 am to Iosh
So is the NCAA going to move the tournament to Malaysia now?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:53 am to a want
The beauty of liberals is how easy it is to cross them up.
Just start with the flavor of the month talking point,
I.E. - Muslim rights.
"Hey Liberal, do you think a Muslim store owner should be forced to make a bacon shaped cake for his customers?
Liberal "Of course not, bacon is highly offensive to Muslims. As a store owner, it is their right to refuse -- free country man!"
Then Christian rights.
"Hey Liberal, do you think a Christian store owner should be forced to make a gay man's wedding cake? Considering that the store owner is a devout Catholic and does not believe in homosexuality?
Liberal "Of course they do! Make that cake you ***ism, ****ism, ***ist, ****phobia!"
The horror of liberals is that they never realize that in today's world, the word LIBERAL - simply means HYPOCRITE.
Seriously, go through every single one of their talking points. Within each one, lies a double standard. Sure they will be in an uproar about this new EO, but will fight tooth and nail for someone's right not to write the word "Police" or "Trump" on a fricking cake. --- As long as the baker fits the proper victim status. Or when the exact same situation is reversed, they will fight for the customer, all while never realizing last week they were fighting for the store owner.
The left = Clownshoes.
Just start with the flavor of the month talking point,
I.E. - Muslim rights.
"Hey Liberal, do you think a Muslim store owner should be forced to make a bacon shaped cake for his customers?
Liberal "Of course not, bacon is highly offensive to Muslims. As a store owner, it is their right to refuse -- free country man!"
Then Christian rights.
"Hey Liberal, do you think a Christian store owner should be forced to make a gay man's wedding cake? Considering that the store owner is a devout Catholic and does not believe in homosexuality?
Liberal "Of course they do! Make that cake you ***ism, ****ism, ***ist, ****phobia!"
The horror of liberals is that they never realize that in today's world, the word LIBERAL - simply means HYPOCRITE.
Seriously, go through every single one of their talking points. Within each one, lies a double standard. Sure they will be in an uproar about this new EO, but will fight tooth and nail for someone's right not to write the word "Police" or "Trump" on a fricking cake. --- As long as the baker fits the proper victim status. Or when the exact same situation is reversed, they will fight for the customer, all while never realizing last week they were fighting for the store owner.
The left = Clownshoes.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Philosophically, you can be both pro-lgbt and against laws which prohibit business owners from choosing who to serve.
If you think someone should be able to deny service to an LGBT individual, you are in no way pro-LGBT.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:07 am to SavageOrangeJug
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The left really overestimates how much the average American cares about the LGBT crowd.
We really don't give a rat's arse.
Then why the need for such an executive order?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:20 am to a want
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He will throw the GOP under the bus as soon as it's convenient.
Ha!!
The fricking GOP climbed under the bus on their own accord a few years ago. That bag of dicks can't get out of their own way cause their too busy sucking off the democrat minority. Trump is giving them enough rope to hang themselves in 2018.
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