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And on the 103rd day, the LGBT executive order was risen

Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:49 pm
LINK with slight editorial liberty
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The signing would represent a major triumph for Vice President Mike "Magnetic Induction For Dick Suction" Pence—whose push for religious-freedom legislation backfired mightily when he served as governor of Indiana—and his allies in the conservative movement.

The original draft order, which would have established broad exemptions for people and groups to claim religious objections under virtually any circumstance, was leaked to The Nation on Feb. 1—the handiwork, many conservatives believed, of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, who have sought to project themselves as friendly to the LGBT community. Liberals blasted the draft order as government-licensed discrimination, and the White House distanced itself from the leaked document in a public statement.

Pence and a small team of conservative allies quickly began working behind the scenes to revise the language, and in recent weeks have ratcheted up the pressure on Trump to sign it. The new draft is being tightly held, but one influential conservative who saw the text said it hasn’t been dialed back much—if at all—since the February leak. “The language is very, very strong,” the source said.
Let a thousand Kim Davises bloom, I guess
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:52 pm to
Good as a business owner - I won't work on something against my convictions - I shouldn't be punished for it.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:52 pm to
...this went so well in North Carolina

Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:55 pm to
Indiana is the more pertinent example but yeah, this probably won't endear him to social liberals in the Midwest
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:56 pm to
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Good as a business owner - I won't work on something against my convictions - I shouldn't be punished for it.


Exactly, no you shouldn't be.
Posted by PepeSilvia
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:58 pm to
As a business frequenter, sometimes in your area actually, I wonder, do you make it a regular practice to interrogate potential customers to assure yourself that serving them won't be detrimental to your convictions?
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:58 pm to
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social liberals


Can go frick themselves no matter the region.

Govt has no business in feels.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:58 pm to
It's not that so much - for me anyway. It's just such lowest-common-denominator bull shite (and I'm not talking about the religious angle).

All these EOs and EAs do is enable him to say he fulfilled a campaign promise and/or say "those damn establishment republicans in congress stopped him". OF course those republicans have to worry about pesky details like funding, constitutionality, etc.

He will throw the GOP under the bus as soon as it's convenient. And we go further and further down the crapper.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:59 pm to
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Iosh
I'm surprised this is the first I am hearing of this considering it was posted 18 hours ago on politico. I read other forums (more liberal than this, by a mile) and didn't see it posted there.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 8:00 pm
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:59 pm to
Oh no now the NCAA is going to boycott the USA
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:01 pm to
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Iosh
Is this a cry for help?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:04 pm to
If it's like the leaked draft it's gonna get smoked by the federal courts
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:05 pm to
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All these EOs and EAs do is enable him to say he fulfilled a campaign promise


Were you in a coma the last 8 years?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:06 pm to
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Let a thousand Kim Davises bloom, I guess


I may be wrong but I though the extent of the executive order would apply only apply to private actors and companies seeking government contracts. It would not apply to members of government carrying out government functions.

I could be wrong.

Although I agree with the substance of the order, I seriously doubt the President has the constitutional authority to put it into practice.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:08 pm to
This seems to me like reporters blowing their load early. Remember in february when he was supposedly going to sign it? Look what happened.
Posted by hogwildinhouston
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:24 pm to
So, Trump fails miserably on so many important economic issues, failing to do the important things he campaigned on and even had some LBGT support on. He even campaigned on his support on other LBGT issues. Yet, the one thing he can achieve is a rally of the bible thumpers on this issue.

Will be so interesting when the conservative court he so shored up shits all over this executive order.

Maybe he'll learn to pick his battles better.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:28 pm to
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I wonder, do you make it a regular practice to interrogate potential customers to assure yourself that serving them won't be detrimental to your convictions?


Thats a non sequitur. In virtually all the cases of claimed business "discrimination" the problem has been with the gays crying about being "damaged". Don't start nothing...won't be nothing. Not that complicated.
Posted by jlc05
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:30 pm to
And you have no clue what other things he is doing that help this country
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:32 pm to
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failing to do the important things he campaigned on and even had some LBGT support on. He even campaigned on his support on other LBGT issues.


What issues do they need addressed?
Posted by a want
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:32 pm to
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nd you have no clue what other things he is doing that help this country

Like what?
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