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re: An inquiry on the subject of Dr. Ben Carson

Posted on 4/20/14 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 12:18 pm to
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It's grossly overstated.



Do you really believe that pile of shite that you typed? You are grossly over stated as being a reasonable voice in anything whatsoever.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63459 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 5:03 pm to
You're kind of an angry guy when it comes to this stuff. In fact I'd say there's a lack of "reason". Perhaps I can lend a hand. But yes, I think the conservatives on this board grossly overstate the bias of the so called "mainstream media". Not saying it doesn't exist to some degree, but it's not all encompassing and certainly doesn't control our political outcomes as some people suggest.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 6:03 pm to
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Not saying it doesn't exist to some degree, but it's not all encompassing and certainly doesn't control our political outcomes as some people suggest.


Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 6:55 pm to
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would want him to get some experience first.


Carson isn't seriously interested in Running for public office at nearly 65 years old. He is interested in a career as an analyst/speaker & for Black Republicans there is huge money to be made.

Any hints at being a Conservative & minorities (Blacks especially) are moved to the head of the Conservative line to put a darker face on their politics(Not attract minority voters)


They love someone other than White Males to spout off their backward social positions/ fiscal austerity(especially concerning social safety net programs).



Seems to be a good man ,but is a bit wishy washy on Affirmative Action since it did get him into Yale & open doors otherwise would have probably never opened :

"I believe that I benefited from Affirmative Action ........Only after I got to Yale did I realize admissions had taken a considerable risk on me & that I had been extended special consideration'"- Dr. Ben Carson


Carson goes on to admit he nearly flunked out of Yale as a Freshman because he was ill prepared, due to his background , to compete early on.

Unfortunately Carson doesn't believe the opportunity should be extended to other minorities . Unfortunately most of those against Affirmative Action don't realize how it works & how hard Carson had to work to capitalize on AA.


Don't worry about Carson as a serious politician. He is just cashing in on the Right Wing love to push forth minority Conservatives.

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 7:26 pm to
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First, it's literally impossible for any "schtick" to be more stale than the constant whining about the media being "in the tank" for liberal candidates, in general. It's grossly overstated.


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You deserve scorn.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63459 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 9:07 pm to
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You deserve scorn.



Hmmmmmm . . . it seems you and some others may deserve scorn because of your apparent lack of faith in America and its people.
Posted by Flyin'Cajun
Wiregrass, AL
Member since Dec 2011
958 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:31 am to
I like the man because he's not a damn lawyer. He's a smart man who has many great ideas on how to clean up much of the bullshite coming out of D.C.

I'm tired of these politicians passing laws that ONLY apply to the American people, not themselves....call me racist...but I'd vote for this man in a heartbeat.

Would the black population vote for this man b/c he's black? I doubt it.....
Posted by Flyin'Cajun
Wiregrass, AL
Member since Dec 2011
958 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:36 am to
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Seems to be a good man ,but is a bit wishy washy on Affirmative Action since it did get him into Yale & open doors otherwise would have probably never opened :


He should be...after all, it's a bullshite system to begin with. He just happen to make it work for himself.
Giving someone an advantage b/c of their race is crap...a business, college, or whatever should give the job/scholarship to the best candidate....period.
BUT....and I do stress BUT...if it's a business...they reserve the right to hire who ever the hell they want b/c it's their business...if you disagree...then don't use that business. Period....
Posted by Flyin'Cajun
Wiregrass, AL
Member since Dec 2011
958 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:40 am to
IMO...this goes right along with the whole, "Everybody gets a trophy" mentality. It's sad. The reality is, we weren't all created equally...sorry but it's the truth.

The world needs ditch diggers....

That would be like white guys screaming....hey, we need more white dudes on the football/basketball team...it's affirmative action.....

Yup....bullshite.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36107 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:30 am to
If he were to run he would gain some momentum in the republican primaries because it sounds like there's not an issue where he isn't right wing enough to make it though that process. The problem for him is going to be some of the rhetoric on social issues if he's going to win enough independents to win a presidential election.

His stated (absence of) belief in evolution won't hurt him (and will probably help him) in republican primaries but will hurt him in a general election with swing voters because it will feed into the narrative that republicans are anti-science. In his opposition to gay marriage he appeared to conflate gay marriage with bestiality and the tide seems to have turned on that issue - meaning this kind of rhetoric may help you win a republican nomination but bugger you in a general election.

I think he's more likely to end up a mike huckabee level political figure than someone who learns to control his gaffes and succeed in a national election.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:37 am to
Ed Schultz gets 300K from unions while sitting at his desk for MSNBC and you believe that he is not biased in his reporting, Christy Matthews has tingly legs to stand on but again no bias is seen by you. The list of biased reporting goes on or a long measure. The only show on MSNBC that has a conservative voice on it at all is Morning Joe which has a RINO at the desk with Mia for the liberal voice on the set. That is all they have for the entire broadcast day. We need to throw in the Reverend Al for the liberal racist slant of the day while we are at it.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16072 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:47 am to
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Though a spokesman for Carson told Reuters that he is not interested in running for president, Carson has said he'd make an exception for divine intervention: "If the Lord grabbed me by the collar and made me do it, I would."
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57120 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:11 am to
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constant whining about the media being "in the tank" for liberal candidates, in general. It's grossly overstated.
Dude. I worked in news 20 years ago. I've witnessed it. It's not overstated a bit. As best as I can tell, knowing the techniques and what to look for its gotten a LOT worse since then.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57120 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:20 am to
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Not saying it doesn't exist to some degree, but it's not all encompassing and certainly doesn't control our political outcomes as some people suggest.
Kind of an indefensible position. Not that you made this argument... but people believe that corporate-funded political advertising distorts elections to the point of destroying our democracy... But biased "news" reporting, and advocacy positions by media has almost no effect...

It's so important to read Bernays. Because once you do, you know that mass manipulation is not only possible, it's not even difficult.

And once you learn his techniques, you start to see them EVERYWHERE. First you see it in advertising. And now we're seeing them overtly being used in news "reporting".
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:21 am to
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If Obama can get elected Carson can too


The opposite is true. Obama getting elected is proof that Carson cannot.
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