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re: Americans want the ACA Improved, not Repealed

Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:18 am to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:18 am to
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Americans want the ACA Improved, not Repealed


The ACA is like a horse with 2 broken legs. The only humane thing to do is to put it down.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32562 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:19 am to
I'd love to hear what most Americans even know about ACA
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:19 am to
they did not make a good bill so that the system would crash and burn. Once it crashed and burned they would then make a single payer government run healthcare and completely frick the entire healthcare system. There honestly was no problem with it before. Just want socialism instead of capitalism which was the foundation of this nation.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:19 am to
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You were for something that, according to this poll, only 1% of the country now want to keep as is.


I never expected it to last unchanged / unimproved until the end of time. Obviously.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421858 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:20 am to
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I never expected it to last unchanged / unimproved until the end of time. Obviously.


but with all governmental programs, we know what the response will be. we just need to make some tweaks and improvements
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7832 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:20 am to
It's a good thing repealing it is an improvement.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:20 am to
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BugAC


Wow, you misstated fraction, percents, polling, and made horrible assumptions.

Even for you, that's a new high of a frick-up post. Well done!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67706 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:21 am to
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remove pre-existing condition protections you're not improving, you're repealing.


Why do you want to keep health insurance illegal?
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4398 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:21 am to
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I never expected it to last unchanged / unimproved until the end of time. Obviously.


Lol it hasnt been in place 15 years. Its been shite since the day it was put in.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:22 am to
also they dont specify who they surveyed which in my opinion makes this survey fake news. In order to make surveys reliable now a-days they need to specify who they surveyed, what region, what states, and what counties/parish/what ever they call it in alaska. Until then it doesnt matter what survey going from all pro trump to all pro left. its fake bullshite
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69254 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:23 am to
BTW, I take issue with the wording of this poll. Whenever you ask questions to a sample, you have to make sure the phrasing doesn't bias the answers. These questions give the positives (maternity care, etc) but don't add the qualifier (at potentially higher costs, higher payments).

Either include neither or both!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421858 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:25 am to
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but don't add the qualifier (at potentially higher costs, higher payments).

yeah i'm waiting for these "scientific" polls on healthcare that discuss costs in light of services offered
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:33 am to
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These questions give the positives (maternity care, etc) but don't add the qualifier (at potentially higher costs, higher payments).


They also didn't add the negative that repeal/replace will substantially increase everyone's premiums, decrease coverage, and kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.

We'll call it a wash.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69254 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:35 am to
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They also didn't add the negative that repeal/replace will substantially increase everyone's premiums, decrease coverage, and kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.
Even if it's replaced with single pay?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421858 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:35 am to
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repeal/replace will substantially increase everyone's premiums,

how is this even possible?

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and kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.

facts...who needs them when some hyperbole will do?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:38 am to
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facts...who needs them when some hyperbole will do?


There's research on this. Strip away people's access to health care, and some of them die who would not have otherwise.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:38 am to
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Even if it's replaced with single pay?


I'll send you a crisp $1 if Republicans do that before 2018.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:39 am to
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It's fun to remind you guys that you're in the minority of the country in your views.


Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4458 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:40 am to
But but but... you said that Americans overwhelmingly didn't want Trump to do ANYTHING with Obamacare.. it was fine just the way it is...


So which is it.. if we need to fix it, that implies that something is broken and not working.. you cheerlead that all is well...
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69254 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:40 am to
So, in your view, people who don't support state intervention in this stuff are responsible for people not having the stuff? Am I supportive of policies that make pre school age kids dumb because I don't support public funding for it?
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