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Am I taking crazy pills? It's the same arguments from the last presidency

Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:27 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31912 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:27 am
When Obama was president the right was screaming
"He won't call out Muslim extremism so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"

Now with Trump the left is screaming
"He won't call out white nationalist terror groups so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"



Basically sometimes you can't make people happy regardless
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:28 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:28 am to
Yes. Hypocrisy abounds in politics.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7629 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:29 am to
trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24722 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:30 am to
That's all politics is.. hypocrisy from everywhere.

And all the people arguing on here are in on it 100%.

This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:33 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50423 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:30 am to
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trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.



They didn't like him pointing out that both sides were violent in Virginia, and that both sides deserve blame.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:31 am to
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They didn't like him pointing out that both sides were violent in Virginia, and that both sides deserve blame.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31495 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:33 am to
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Yes. Hypocrisy abounds in politics.


I agree wholeheartedly. And there have been many many absurd arguments about Obama over the last decade. However, there is a fundamental difference between the nonsense being spewed about Trump and cville right now and Obama's refusal to call out Islam. I could write a book about the meaningful distinction, but it has been well covered elsewhere.

More importantly though is the fact that the MSM is pushing the current "dog whistle," "platform," "curry favor" bullshite where they were mostly crickets in years past.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:34 am to
Perfectly correct regardless of the deflections you'll get in the comments. Everyone hates the other guy. I think trump is doing the correct thing, and I thought obama did the correct thing
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83557 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:34 am to
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agree wholeheartedly. And there have been many many absurd arguments about Obama over the last decade. However, there is a fundamental difference between the nonsense being spewed about Trump and cville right now and Obama's refusal to call out Islam. I could write a book about the meaningful distinction, but it has been well covered elsewhere.


I think the better comparison is Obama's refusal to call out BLM

Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31912 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:35 am to
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trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.


You understand an Obama supporter could've made the exact same argument a few years ago right?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:35 am to
There is a slight difference. The right wasn't so concerned about Obama's denouncement of radical Islamic terror as much as his mere acknowledgement of it.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40083 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:38 am to
quote:

When Obama was president the right was screaming
"He won't call out Muslim extremism so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"

Now with Trump the left is screaming
"He won't call out white nationalist terror groups so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"






Uh, the difference is there actually were and are muslim terrorist that are a real threat where as there are no white nationalist terror groups.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38122 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:40 am to
Yeah and for this reason, any Republican not calling out Trump for this is a hypocrite.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:40 am to
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trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.


Obama condemned "terrorism" and y'all said he had to condemn "Islamist terrorism."

Trump condemned "violence" but he didn't condemn "white nationalist violence."

Different standards.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:42 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31495 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:40 am to
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I think the better comparison is Obama's refusal to call out BLM 


That's fair. However, one thing I've pointed out is the scope of the presidency. I'm fine with Obama not calling out BLM on local law enforcement matters.

Islam is a threat to national security though and I think that is more squarely within the President's purview, as CIC.

But we all know the president is no longer just the head of the executive branch of the federal government and CIC. We look to him (and eventually her) to be a cultural leader. I think that is anti-American (at least anti North American) but it's irreversible.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31495 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:42 am to
quote:

The right wasn't so concerned about Obama's denouncement of radical Islamic terror as much as his mere acknowledgement of it.


Great point.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

There is a slight difference. The right wasn't so concerned about Obama's denouncement of radical Islamic terror as much as his mere acknowledgement of it.


Link to where Trump acknowledges white nationalist terrorism?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18662 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:43 am to
Obama actually embraced BLM while Trump condemned them all

I do see the hypocrisy of both sides though
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I'm fine with Obama not calling out BLM on local law enforcement matters.


Were cool with him constantly blaming police before he knew the whole story?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:51 am to
quote:

I think the better comparison is Obama's refusal to call out BLM



Agreed
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