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Am I taking crazy pills? It's the same arguments from the last presidency
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:27 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:27 am
When Obama was president the right was screaming
"He won't call out Muslim extremism so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"
Now with Trump the left is screaming
"He won't call out white nationalist terror groups so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"
Basically sometimes you can't make people happy regardless
"He won't call out Muslim extremism so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"
Now with Trump the left is screaming
"He won't call out white nationalist terror groups so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"
Basically sometimes you can't make people happy regardless
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:28 am to Tiger1242
Yes. Hypocrisy abounds in politics.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:29 am to Tiger1242
trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:30 am to Tiger1242
That's all politics is.. hypocrisy from everywhere.
And all the people arguing on here are in on it 100%.
And all the people arguing on here are in on it 100%.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:33 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:30 am to Gusoline
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trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.
They didn't like him pointing out that both sides were violent in Virginia, and that both sides deserve blame.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:31 am to imjustafatkid
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They didn't like him pointing out that both sides were violent in Virginia, and that both sides deserve blame.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:33 am to Salmon
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Yes. Hypocrisy abounds in politics.
I agree wholeheartedly. And there have been many many absurd arguments about Obama over the last decade. However, there is a fundamental difference between the nonsense being spewed about Trump and cville right now and Obama's refusal to call out Islam. I could write a book about the meaningful distinction, but it has been well covered elsewhere.
More importantly though is the fact that the MSM is pushing the current "dog whistle," "platform," "curry favor" bullshite where they were mostly crickets in years past.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:34 am to Tiger1242
Perfectly correct regardless of the deflections you'll get in the comments. Everyone hates the other guy. I think trump is doing the correct thing, and I thought obama did the correct thing
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:34 am to McLemore
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agree wholeheartedly. And there have been many many absurd arguments about Obama over the last decade. However, there is a fundamental difference between the nonsense being spewed about Trump and cville right now and Obama's refusal to call out Islam. I could write a book about the meaningful distinction, but it has been well covered elsewhere.
I think the better comparison is Obama's refusal to call out BLM
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:35 am to Gusoline
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trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.
You understand an Obama supporter could've made the exact same argument a few years ago right?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:35 am to Tiger1242
There is a slight difference. The right wasn't so concerned about Obama's denouncement of radical Islamic terror as much as his mere acknowledgement of it.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:38 am to Tiger1242
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When Obama was president the right was screaming
"He won't call out Muslim extremism so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"
Now with Trump the left is screaming
"He won't call out white nationalist terror groups so he supports them rabble rabble rabble"
Uh, the difference is there actually were and are muslim terrorist that are a real threat where as there are no white nationalist terror groups.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:40 am to Tiger1242
Yeah and for this reason, any Republican not calling out Trump for this is a hypocrite.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:43 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:40 am to Gusoline
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trump called everyone out. that wasnt good enough for the left.
Obama condemned "terrorism" and y'all said he had to condemn "Islamist terrorism."
Trump condemned "violence" but he didn't condemn "white nationalist violence."
Different standards.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:40 am to Salmon
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I think the better comparison is Obama's refusal to call out BLM
That's fair. However, one thing I've pointed out is the scope of the presidency. I'm fine with Obama not calling out BLM on local law enforcement matters.
Islam is a threat to national security though and I think that is more squarely within the President's purview, as CIC.
But we all know the president is no longer just the head of the executive branch of the federal government and CIC. We look to him (and eventually her) to be a cultural leader. I think that is anti-American (at least anti North American) but it's irreversible.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:42 am to Vacherie Saint
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The right wasn't so concerned about Obama's denouncement of radical Islamic terror as much as his mere acknowledgement of it.
Great point.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:43 am to Vacherie Saint
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There is a slight difference. The right wasn't so concerned about Obama's denouncement of radical Islamic terror as much as his mere acknowledgement of it.
Link to where Trump acknowledges white nationalist terrorism?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:43 am to Salmon
Obama actually embraced BLM while Trump condemned them all
I do see the hypocrisy of both sides though
I do see the hypocrisy of both sides though
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:46 am to McLemore
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I'm fine with Obama not calling out BLM on local law enforcement matters.
Were cool with him constantly blaming police before he knew the whole story?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:51 am to Salmon
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I think the better comparison is Obama's refusal to call out BLM
Agreed
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