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re: Allegedly FBI DID use dossier to get FISA warrant - per CNN

Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:56 pm to
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the same CNN that currently has no mention of the Fresno mass shooting anywhere on their front page?



Yes. The tabloid.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:57 pm to
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It just seems so incredibly unlikely a federal judge grants a FISA warrant on unproven rumors.


More unlikely than the FBI conducting a secret investigation of a President elects team based on a report ginned up in England at the behest and under contract from supporters of the sitting opposition US administration?

we have officially gone down the rabbit hole where we do not know what to believe.

Also FISA warrants were rubber stamped. Any indication that the Judges were severe in their scrutiny is dispelled by the number of approvals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:57 pm to
judges, generally, grant warrants on complete bullshite most of the time. when the prosecution is given the cover of ultimate secrecy, i can only imagine what bullshite they allege. this is the problem with dissolving due process
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:59 pm to
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Either way, that parts of the dossier are being confirmed does not bode well for Donald.


They have always said that Russia was trying to compromise Trump. Any rational person would assume this to be true. Would also assume they wouold try this on any and all adversaries. Therefore, the Trump - Russia collusion takes a hit.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45802 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:59 pm to
Trump isn't going to let this go, he is going to keep plowing ahead. I might take awhile for everything to come out...
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:05 pm to
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They have always said that Russia was trying to compromise Trump.


Why would "Trump associates" make it easier by meeting in Europe with Russian officials then?

quote:

American allies, including the British and the Dutch, had provided information describing meetings in European cities between Russian officials — and others close to Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin — and associates of President-elect Trump, according to three former American officials who requested anonymity in discussing classified intelligence.

Separately, American intelligence agencies had intercepted communications of Russian officials, some of them within the Kremlin, discussing contacts with Trump associates.


LINK

We have to follow this where it leads.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48204 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:13 pm to
Oh they will follow it. You aren't going to like where it leads though. Obama wire tapped trump. Trump did not collude with Russia. You already know this. I won't hold my breath you will admit to being duped by fake news when the truth comes out.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:21 pm to
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Obama wire tapped trump.


Already debunked.

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Trump did not collude with Russia.


We're going to have to come to an agreement on what "collude" means in this context. I personally don't like the word being used here because it can mean too many things.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23162 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:22 pm to
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Already proven true
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23162 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:26 pm to
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hey grant them like 99% of the time.


Much much more frequent than that.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5830 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:31 pm to
This is bad for Page. He better get to Russia before he is in a federal prison.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48204 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:34 pm to
You are so disingenuous. Surveillance by Obama admin on trump admin has by no means been debunked. No matter how many times you repeat that lie.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:36 pm to
You just went from "Trump" to "Trump admin". Both are not accurate. "Trump campaign officials" or "Trump transition officials" would be a little more accurate.

You should be more precise with your words.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:38 pm to
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Allegedly FBI DID use dossier to get FISA warrant - per CNN

I always thought McCain sent one of his flunky's over to get it.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22203 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:41 pm to
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Obama wire tapped trump.


Already debunked.




You're about three talking points behind, this weeks story is that they did it but it was perfectly legal. You're posting in a thread arguing about the ievidentiary basis of a FISA warrant and still claiming there was no surveillence.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22203 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:41 pm to
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Obama wire tapped trump.


Already debunked.




You're about three talking points behind, this weeks story is that they did it but it was perfectly legal. You're posting in a thread arguing about the evidentiary basis of a FISA warrant and still claiming there was no surveillence.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:41 pm to
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You should be more precise with your words

How precise where Evelyn Farkas' words?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:45 pm to
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It just seems so incredibly unlikely a federal judge grants a FISA warrant on unproven rumors.


The FISA court is set up to rubber stamp warrants. It's like a 99.9% chance a warrant gets approved.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:46 pm to
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This is bad for Page. He better get to Russia before he is in a federal prison


We had enough shitty Mizzou posters before you showed up.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5830 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:48 pm to
If the Democrats had info on Trump they would have used it during the campaign. If the IC had nothing there would be nothing to leak.

If there is something the FBI has found since they started the investigation it could hurt Trump's team. I think Trump would have been shielded from any collusion.
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