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re: AGW Deniers - Seems Kind of Hopeless
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:38 am to AUbused
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:38 am to AUbused
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AUbused
Listen, if you're going to troll, don't use tactics that have been shot down 2,000 times.
If you want to have an honest discussion, don't use the terms "denier" or "flat-earther". It makes you sound unintelligent.
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Face it.....if every single fricking scientist on the face of the earth was saying there is no doubt that humans are contributing negatively to climate change you'd just continue to stick your weak-arse head in the sand.
But but...... is man's effect like one man taking a piss in Lake Superior, or is it like one man pissing in a half full glass of water?
How come these scientists can't explain the massive change in the AGW narrative over the last decade that all has the same conclusions and same resolutions?
Even if you were to accept that man does impact warming, how the frick are you going to control other countries?
You came here to start a fight but aren't answering any of the questions that are being asked of you. Not a good way to win an argument.
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:39 am to NC_Tigah
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Did you read the link regarding construct of that claim?
Yes. Of course I could also go find an article that claims leprechauns to be real. I'll let you Google for that one though.
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Do you have a clue as to the significance of cyclical prehistoric CO2 variance?
I know that it has changed in the past significantly. Same with temperature. But as I understand it current science takes that into account and places a large emphasis on carbon trend correlation with the industrial revolution. Also, as I understand it most variances in pre-industrial carbon changes are explainable by natural phenomena(e.g volcanoes etc).
At any rate, I didn't really come here to get into the nitty gritty. Its been 2 years since I seriously read up and I really don't have the time to go down that road again. I was simply thinking about the OP this weekend and found the conclusion interesting.
Its pretty much been confirmed here that even if 100% of scientists were stating the same thing it wouldn't change anyones mind. I don't know exactly what that says but its kind of fricked up.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:41 am to Morgan56
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So I actually will not be around to see ocean front property in Arkansas?
You can always hope that the global termite population gets an acute and permanent case of the winds.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:42 am to CptBengal
Lol. Im a "scientist" too. A computer scientist
I do find it funny that you are a "scientist" who deals with "climate related projects" yet you responded to my post on carbon cycles by citing carbon concentration.........showing a pretty poor understanding of wtf you were talking about.
I do find it funny that you are a "scientist" who deals with "climate related projects" yet you responded to my post on carbon cycles by citing carbon concentration.........showing a pretty poor understanding of wtf you were talking about.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:43 am to AUbused
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Of course I could also go find an article that claims leprechauns to be real.
Just look at the facts of the claim.
The survey was sent to over 10,000 scientists. Of those, only the answers from 77 were included in the stat. Do you really think that is an accurate representation of the climate community?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:43 am to TX Tiger
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So, you're too stupid or lazy or both, to think for yourself or do any research on your own and now you're bragging about how easily you offer yourself up for propaganda.
And therin lies the problem with most of this stuff. People read an article on CNN, and are suddenly "outraged". Do they understand the science? Have they any experience with Physics, or Chemistry, or Thermodynamics? Of course not. But they are "outraged". See the cause of the day on Facebook to get a great example of this.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:44 am to MMauler
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Then use your damn common sense and look at the f*cking FACTS.
I dont take posts like that seriously at all. You're like a fricked up caricature of Sean Hannity.
In short.....bite my nuts.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:47 am to AUbused
quote:So you did not read the link.
Did you read the link regarding construct of that claim?
Yes. Of course I could also go find an article that claims leprechauns to be real. I'll let you Google for that one though.
It had nothing to do with AGW "science".
It dealt with an example of the type survey used to establish your 97% "consensus" number. A number you continue to erroneously repeat.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:51 am to AUbused
quote:Warmist science ignores it as best it can. For good reason. It establishes CO2 as a temperature correlate rather than cause.
But as I understand it current science takes that into account
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:52 am to TX Tiger
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So, you're too stupid or lazy or both, to think for yourself or do any research on your own and now you're bragging about how easily you offer yourself up for propaganda.
Kuddos to you sir for at least admitting to being a sheople. The vast majority who post regularly on this board will kick and scream before admitting as much.
Congratulations, you may advance to the front of the sheople line.
Lol. Yes, because everyone who has an opinion on anything must dedicate their lives to the pursuit of advancing that field.
I suppose if my post was about how I was going to have a kidney transplant you'd admonish me for not having dedicated my life to medical practice. You people cannot be this stupid. I've done my fair share of reading the nitty gritty literature, but as I stated earlier its been 2 or so years. I read enough to be convinced that these scientists were not fricking around and that basically noone I talk to on an internet board is an expert in this field.
So there we have it, you and I are on the same level ground. Neither of us are experts in the field. We've been presented with the same evidence yet I choose to trust in scientists(just as I do when it comes to modern medicine) and you choose to trust in Hannity, Jesus, or both.
Congrats on being retarded.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:53 am to NC_Tigah
I did read it if you're talking about the one from Forbes.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:54 am to AUbused
Ok Aubused, so of that 97% statistic, what was the sample size that was tested? What was the denominator?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:55 am to MJM
Get out of here with that evangelist bullshite sheople! I mean you sherson!!!! These people are all insidiously motivated by grant money! Haven't you heard?
These people DGAF about science. Thats what it comes down to.
These people DGAF about science. Thats what it comes down to.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:55 am to AUbused
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humans are, in fact, at least partially responsible for climate change
Considering the scientists you are sourcing, I'm sure you realize that the word "partially" is as unscientific as it gets.
If man is only slightly to blame (which is likely because we are coming out of an ice age and one would expect the Earth to warm) then why should we ruin our economy with Cap and Trade and EPA regulations? Particularly in light of the fact that Russia and China are doing nothing about it and it is global warming we're talking about here.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:56 am to AUbused
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yet you responded to my post on carbon cycles by citing carbon concentration
because the cycles are meaningless if not under the estimation of the current concentration pools. I find your routine this morning to be tiresome spidey.
back to work.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:56 am to AUbused
This thread reminds me of Dr. Hathaway from the movie Real Genius, for some reason.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:56 am to ironsides
You can use the pie chart above if its preferable.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:58 am to CptBengal
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spidey
Is this an accusation of an alter Im assuming? I dont come here a whole lot. Does he come here and embarrass ya'll asses routinely or something?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:58 am to AUbused
Answer the question. Of your 97% statistic that you cite, what was the population?
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