re: AGW Deniers - Seems Kind of Hopeless

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Think about it seriously for a moment.....if 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are, in fact, at least partially responsible for climate change......what could possibly change their mind? 99% of scientists? 100%? I think thats doubtful.

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I'd say at the temperature that prompted hundreds of millions of people to settle along the Earth's sea coasts.

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The following assertion was made:

Assertion : Because climate models are inaccurate and include carbon as a force variable, we must therefore declare that carbon cannot be a valid force variable.

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I find it odd that people discount the whole notion due to fears about a government-backed coalition of leftist climate scientists out to muddy the issue...

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Recently, I was the lead author on a paper demonstrating that about 40 years and many millions of dollars of US nutritional surveillance data were fatally flawed. In most research domains, such a finding might be monumental; yet in nutrition epidemiology—the study of the impact of diet on health, hereafter referred to simply as “nutrition”—these results are commonplace. In fact, there is a large body of evidence demonstrating that the systematic misreporting of energy and macronutrient intake renders the results and conclusions of the vast majority of federally funded nutrition studies invalid.

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We may be witnessing the confluence of two inherent components of the human condition: incompetence and self-interest. .... And while the self-correcting nature of science necessitates failure, the vast majority of nutrition’s failures were engendered by a complete lack of familiarity with the scientific method.

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The responsibility for this unfortunate state of affairs rests squarely on the leaders of nutrition research. Rather than training graduate students in the scientific method, and allowing their research to serve the needs of society, the field’s leaders choose to train their mentees to serve only their own professional needs—namely, to obtain grant funding and publish their research.

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The apparent self-interest that is driving research in this field is not limited to raising students to merely follow the herd. The subjective data yielded by poorly formulated nutrition studies are also the perfect vehicle to perpetuate a never-ending cycle of ambiguous findings leading to ever-more federal funding. The National Institutes of Health spent an estimated $2.2 billion on nutrition and obesity research in the 2012 fiscal year, a significant proportion of which was spent on research that used the pseudoscientific methods described above. The fact that nutrition researchers have known for decades that these techniques are invalid implies that the field has been perpetrating fraud against the US taxpayers for more than 40 years—far greater than any fraud perpetrated in the private sector (e.g., the Enron and Madoff scandals).

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Anyone who denies the climate doesn't change is wrong.

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I find it odd that people discount the whole notion due to fears about a government-backed coalition of leftist climate scientists out to muddy the issue... but have literally zero problems with corporate-backed scientists who lie about every issue under the sun.

Why would you follow the word of think tanks and publications directly funded by the energy industry, but distrust scientists from the world's top institutes of higher education? Blows me away.


Remember, kids, asbestos isn't so bad and cigarettes are only sort of addictive.

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