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re: AGW Deniers - Seems Kind of Hopeless
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:27 am to AUbused
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:27 am to AUbused
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they conclude that humans are actively and meaningfully contributing to global warming
I was convinced in 1998. I think most were. But here we sit with increasing use of carbon based energy and increases in CO2 levels in the atmosphere. Yet we are not seeing increases in temperature. Why? Is it possible that we don't fully understand CO2 atmospheric impacts like we thought?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:27 am to AUbused
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..if 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are, in fact, at least partially responsible for climate change
Serious question.
Do these 97% know what % humans are responsible for?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:28 am to AUbused
We have discovered that those in this "consensus" were fudging the data.
You set up a system that handsomely rewards those "scientist" who get on board.
On the other hand, we have discovered that you set up a systemt that ostracizes anyone who dares to disagree publicly and you use the MULTIBILLIONS that have gone into propagandizing this religion to do it.
To the left, this has become a religion.
Like all religions, the main concern of the AGW fanatics is to make money off of it.
Your side made a complete baffoon the face of your religion and he's already made such outrageous claims (the polar ice caps would melt by 2013) that anyone with a brain should question this religion.
When it was clear that the "science" wasn't matching the predictions, you actually changed the entire f*cking name of the movement. There was no announcement, no fanfare -- you just got your Komrades in the mainstream media to change the name from "global warming" to climate change.
At this point, anyone with an IQ above 10 who didn't sit the f*ck up and say, "WHAT THE MOTHER F*CK???" has absolutely ZERO credibility and is merely a Kool-Aid drinking HACK.
You set up an entire religion based on the following --
And, you expect to be taken seriously???
And, finally, as a solution, and in true demented liberal fashion, you propose the one true liberal solution to fixing every f*cking problem under the sun -- LET'S TAX THE EVER LIVING F*CK OUT OF IT AND REDISTRIBUTE THAT WEALTH. Liberals don't care about FIXING the so-called problem -- they just want to put another f*cking tax on it -- just like everything else.
And, after all of this -- you really expect rational thinking people to take you seriously?
You set up a system that handsomely rewards those "scientist" who get on board.
On the other hand, we have discovered that you set up a systemt that ostracizes anyone who dares to disagree publicly and you use the MULTIBILLIONS that have gone into propagandizing this religion to do it.
To the left, this has become a religion.
Like all religions, the main concern of the AGW fanatics is to make money off of it.
Your side made a complete baffoon the face of your religion and he's already made such outrageous claims (the polar ice caps would melt by 2013) that anyone with a brain should question this religion.
When it was clear that the "science" wasn't matching the predictions, you actually changed the entire f*cking name of the movement. There was no announcement, no fanfare -- you just got your Komrades in the mainstream media to change the name from "global warming" to climate change.
At this point, anyone with an IQ above 10 who didn't sit the f*ck up and say, "WHAT THE MOTHER F*CK???" has absolutely ZERO credibility and is merely a Kool-Aid drinking HACK.
You set up an entire religion based on the following --
quote:
Cold Summer - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Summer - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Summer - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Fall - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Fall - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Fall - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Winter - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Winter - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Winter - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Spring - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Spring - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Spring - Fault of Global Warming
Too Many Hurricanes - Fault of Global Warming
Average Number of Hurricanes - Fault of Climate Change
Very Few Hurricanes - Fault of Climate Change
And, on and on and on and on ....
And, you expect to be taken seriously???
And, finally, as a solution, and in true demented liberal fashion, you propose the one true liberal solution to fixing every f*cking problem under the sun -- LET'S TAX THE EVER LIVING F*CK OUT OF IT AND REDISTRIBUTE THAT WEALTH. Liberals don't care about FIXING the so-called problem -- they just want to put another f*cking tax on it -- just like everything else.
And, after all of this -- you really expect rational thinking people to take you seriously?
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 9:58 am
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:29 am to AUbused
quote:It only means they have a theory.....an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true.
Yet 97% of the scientists who make climate their business feel that they can
quote:Apparently their data collection practices were proven to be fraudulent in past studies.
So basically......no, there is no scientific data that would change you're mind.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:30 am to AUbused
not to mention the 97% thing is utter BS.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:31 am to C
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Who are these 3% that don't agree?
Mostly they're teaching creationism in Louisiana classrooms.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:32 am to Homesick Tiger
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Yet you want us to trust scientists with theories? I'll pass.
Like the Theory of Relativity? Or the Theory of Evolution?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:32 am to dante
Didn't have time to read all the responses, but hopefully someone said that - typical - the Liberal response to AGW is to tax corporations and redistribute wealth.
Even if AGW was "settled science" (and I seriously doubt it is), the Liberal response is the typical social justice b.s. rather than a practical, effective, and direct solution. Thus, my side views the entire matter with sever apprehension.
Even if AGW was "settled science" (and I seriously doubt it is), the Liberal response is the typical social justice b.s. rather than a practical, effective, and direct solution. Thus, my side views the entire matter with sever apprehension.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:33 am to NC_Tigah
I'll take that as an affirmative.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:33 am to dantes69
If you age kooks were really sincere, why wouldn't Al Gore be Public Enemy #1? His home uses 12-20X more energy than the the average home, he flies around the planet on private jets, etc. His carbon footprint is the equivalent of Shaq's size 22 shoe.
And yet, he's the face of the age movement.
Call me when you guys stop being a complete joke.
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And yet, he's the face of the age movement.
Call me when you guys stop being a complete joke.
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:35 am to elprez00
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At one point, weren't all scholars and scientists 100% sure of a Geocentric orbit of the solar system?
Nope.
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Simply having a consensus does not prove a theory, especially in a time where there is great money to be made off of certain theories.
Yes, and not doing anything about climate change is where the big money sits right now. Any sort of carbon scheme is going to affect big oil, and they do not want profits impacted.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:36 am to C
Hmm. Who is "we".......because apparently the overwhelming majority of scientists look at the trendline in the OP and conclude that the general trend is currently toward warming and that evidence leads them to conclude that man's carbon output actively contribute to it. I don't know what else to say and really my point is that there aren't really any more scientists to help the cause because they're already all saying the same thing.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:36 am to AUbused
quote:or Henry's Law, which AGW """"Theory"""" inconveniently ignores.
Like the Theory of Relativity? Or the Theory of Evolution?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:37 am to Layabout
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Mostly they're teaching creationism in Louisiana classrooms
wait, are you saying you're including highschool teachers in below par school districts in your "97% scientists agree" claim? What qualifications does a school teacher have?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:37 am to AustinTigr
Thank you for your cartoonish contribution to this thead.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:37 am to navy
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Since when does "consensus" equal proof/fact?
Remember when the consensus was that the Earth was flat?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:38 am to AUbused
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.97 out of 100 scientists are standing there saying that you will find it to the west..
But thats not true. Of Climate Scientists, 97 out of 100 agree. Thats like saying 97 out of 100 LSU fans hate Bama, so Bama must be awful. You don't think those guys have a vested interest?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:38 am to Layabout
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Mostly they're teaching creationism in Louisiana classrooms.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:38 am to AUbused
quote:Affirmative of what?
I'll take that as an affirmative.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:38 am to AUbused
quote:So I assume you believe in creationism? After all, 97% of priests believe it to be true.
Think about it seriously for a moment.....if 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are, in fact, at least partially responsible for climate change......what could possibly change their mind? 99% of scientists? 100%? I think thats doubtful.
Or maybe you're Muslim? Because almost every Imam believes that Allah is the God.
You're entire post is a logical fallacy. Appeal to authority. Look it up.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 9:40 am
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