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A Line in the Sand - Protesting Museums
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:28 pm
Anyone protesting a museum for their contents is human trash. If you are so threatened by knowledge, then you need to go live alone out in the woods. There is a huge difference between displaying something out in the open and putting it in a location meant for preservation and learning. I understand the feelings towards wanting to move the statues, but they don't need to be destroyed or put in a warehouse. History should be remembered. Context matters.
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:31 pm to AggieDub14
quote:Not sure what you're referring to, but generally agree re museums. However, it's far from clear that every single one of the thousands of traitor monuments deserves careful preservation. I don't think we're in any danger of forgetting who Lee is. If anything, we're just starting to get an accurate picture.
Anyone protesting a museum for their contents is human trash. If you are so threatened by knowledge, then you need to go live alone out in the woods. There is a huge difference between displaying something out in the open and putting it in a location meant for preservation and learning. I understand the feelings towards wanting to move the statues, but they don't need to be destroyed or put in a warehouse. History should be remembered. Context matters.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
Anytime I see mention of statues going to a museum, people just say that it won't be enough. The point is that you have to draw a line in the sand. Be willing to move the statues to a museum, but do not budge past that. Those who fear knowledge and want to destroy history can frick off.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:34 pm to AggieDub14
We were warned about a slippery slope
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:35 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
I don't think we're in any danger of forgetting who Lee is. If anything, we're just starting to get an accurate picture.
No, we're getting a leftist interpretation of what they want him to be and represent. I know you folks love reinventing history.
You wuzn't kangz. Sorry.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:36 pm to AggieDub14
Not sure why people refer to the slippery slope as a fallacy, because it's real.
Good to see you have at least a point where you say "too much."
Good to see you have at least a point where you say "too much."
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
. If anything, we're just starting to get an accurate picture.
if you want to get an accurate picture of who lee was, read first hand accounts written by the men who served with, under, and against him. not hard to do. there are plenty of first hand accounts out there, plenty of books, plenty of essays, etc written by men who actually knew and dealt with him.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:36 pm to BamaFan365
That's the entire purpose of a line in the sand. Find a compromise and stand your ground.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I love history. I will always be on the side of preserving it. But context matters.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:37 pm to AggieDub14
A line in sand can be moved rather easily.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:38 pm to junkfunky
I'd love to see some protesters vandalize a government owned museum. They'd go to federal prison.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:38 pm to AggieDub14
Don't give them any ideas you a-hole
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:40 pm to AggieDub14
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AggieDub14
Do careful, according to Antifa you could be considered a Nazi for having common sense
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:43 pm to AggieDub14
quote:I haven't seen that. At best, that seems like a blanket statement applying to just a few.
Anytime I see mention of statues going to a museum, people just say that it won't be enough.
quote:I don't agree that putting a few statues in a warehouse is the same as "destroying history". Actually, ONLY building monuments to defeated traitors instead of to millions of black Americans exploited, enslaved and raped over the centuries is much more akin to "destroying history". Modern day Confederate sympathizers don't even seem to have the millions of black Americans in mind as having been part of "the south" when they continue to whine about "destroying the history of the south".
Those who fear knowledge and want to destroy history can frick off.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:43 pm to beerJeep
quote:Yes, and you'll find out that in addition to the hagiographic elements, he was a brutal, flawed person.
if you want to get an accurate picture of who lee was, read first hand accounts written by the men who served with, under, and against him. not hard to do. there are plenty of first hand accounts out there, plenty of books, plenty of essays, etc written by men who actually knew and dealt with him.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:46 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
Not sure why people refer to the slippery slope as a fallacy, because it's real.
A slippery slope fallacy is only a fallacy when the comparisons being drawn are disjointed or disconnected. If you can causally connect cause-and-effect, it's no longer a slippery slope fallacy. It's just a slippery slope.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:47 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Yes, and you'll find out that in addition to the hagiographic elements, he was a weak, flawed person.
Enough about MLK. This is the thread about REL
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:48 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Yes, and you'll find out that in addition to the hagiographic elements, he was a brutal, flawed person.
same can be said about any great military leader going back to the dawn of time. his former enemies, such as grant, spoke highly about him in his post war memoirs. Are you saying grant was bias and wanted to show him as better than he was? they fought eachother. why would he try to idolize his former enemy?
me thinks you have done very little reading about lee and his counterparts on the union side and their feelings toward eachother prewar, during the war, and post war.
but its okay. ill forgive your ignorance.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:54 pm to AggieDub14
You're a day late and a dollar short, as usual.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:54 pm to texashorn
Nah I spotted him the dollar.
Because Aggy.
Because Aggy.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 5:55 pm
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