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538: Americans don't live around the other party anymore. Purple America gone

Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:31 pm to
Jesus. That's pretty telling as to why the division is so polarizing
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:31 pm to
The only truly purple areas these days are suburban neighborhoods that surround large metros cities.

However even that is changing. It seems to be the trend in the middle of the country, suburbs are turning more and more red, and on the coasts suburbs are turning more and more blue. So basically a microcosm of the country at large.

Works for me though as we will always have an electoral college.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:32 pm to
map of the coming Balkanization
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:37 pm to
That first graphic should scare the isth out of democrats.

Baselessly smearing the majority of americans with false accusations of being racist, bigoted, xenophobic, sexist, homophobes isn't working.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:37 pm to
What I see is an evolving sea of red. Conservatives don't want to live in areas controlled by Democrats/liberal progressives. This will actually make the inevitable geopolitical divide easier.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

What I see is an evolving sea of red. Conservatives don't want to live in areas controlled by Democrats/liberal progressives. This will actually make the inevitable geopolitical divide easier.




I hope so. liberals offer no redeeming contributions
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:44 pm to
LOL ... "a want" ... "moderate"


Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

LOL ... "a want" ... "moderate"
Dude's been voting in national elections since the 80s and has never voted for a republican for president.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:01 pm to
I wonder what the maps looked like before 1992. In 1992, you had George HW Bush who was a moderate Republican going up against Bill Clinton who was a moderate Democrat. Plus Ross Perot also garnered a lot of votes. In 1996, Bob Dole was the GOP presidential nominee who was another moderate Republican. The chasm between the presidential candidates wasn't nearly as wide as it has been over the last 17 years.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Baselessly smearing the majority of americans with false accusations of being racist, bigoted, xenophobic, sexist, homophobes isn't working.

I interpret that graph as it is both working and failing.

They basically pitch racial revenge politics.

There's really no middle ground to be had there. They're gearing up one side for war. The other side noticed they're the intended targets.

I think the best part if the last few years is that now, white democrats are finding out their voter registration doesn't protect them from the mob they created
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

The chasm between the presidential candidates wasn't nearly as wide as it has been over the last 17 years.



Ehhh this past fall the candidates were also pretty moderate once you remove the personal vitriol/media smears.

Trump is probably the most moderate republican candidate in the last 40 years. Hillary, like her husband, was also quite moderate.

It's really the citizens of America who are pushing further apart right now. Not so much the politicians (with the exception of Comrade Bernie).
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:11 pm to
I have sort of two broad question that relate to this.

a. Is this sutainable? Politicians fail, policies fail and people get pissy. How long will people continue to double down on the same party (on either side)?

B. Is this a reflection on people focusing on the letter next to the name and the person they are voting on? --this is something I have been thinking about in local elections. Are people voting down the party line because of trendy hot-topic (I.E. bathroom bills, abortion, weed) that make national headlines vs campaigns/experience?
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

I think the best part if the last few years is that now, white democrats are finding out their voter registration doesn't protect them from the mob they created


Exactly. When identity politics is the go to move, then it's only a matter of time before even the white progessives to be slandered and ridiculed.

I would add that another great thing that has happened over the last few years is that the word 'racist' has become 99% empty. It really holds no water these days to most white people as most are called racist just for being alive.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

The only truly purple areas these days are suburban neighborhoods that surround large metros cities.

However even that is changing. It seems to be the trend in the middle of the country, suburbs are turning more and more red, and on the coasts suburbs are turning more and more blue. So basically a microcosm of the country at large.

Works for me though as we will always have an electoral college.



My county is a good example of this. I live in a major Atlanta metro county, Cobb County, and this county voted blue for the first time ever during the Presidential election. Hillary had over 6,800 more votes in Cobb County than Trump did. Another metro county, Gwinnett County, did as well.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:15 pm to
Great post, I saw that, article too. You should read "The Big Sort" by Bill Bishop. Very informative and a pretty entertaining read, too.

LINK
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:15 pm to
I think your are starting to see less cross-party appealing candidates down ticket.

The sound bite era is on such full force that politicians feel like they have to anchor themselves to one party or the other.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:16 pm to
What's Nate's metallic rating currently?
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

I think your are starting to see less cross-party appealing candidates down ticket.

The sound bite era is on such full force that politicians feel like they have to anchor themselves to one party or the other.


This is huge too. And it's only going to get worse.

For example in Missouri, Claire Mccaskill has been a big outspoken critic of Trump, but she represents a state that elected him by a 20% margin.

She's about to get smoked in 2018.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

LOL ... "a want" ... "moderate"

Dude's been voting in national elections since the 80s and has never voted for a republican for president.





You were guilty of wording that very poorly.

You need to work on your writing skills, hhtm.
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