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20 new papers published suggesting solar activity the key driving force of CC

Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:41 pm
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“The identification of causal effects is a fundamental problem in climate change research. Here, a new perspective on climate change causality is presented using the central England temperature (CET) dataset, the longest instrumental temperature record, and a combination of slow feature analysis and wavelet analysis. The driving forces of climate change were investigated and the results showed two independent degrees of freedom —a 3.36-year cycle and a 22.6-year cycle, which seem to be connected to the El Niño–Southern Oscillation cycle and the Hale sunspot cycle, respectively.”

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“Hurricane genesis modelling based on the relationship between solar activity and hurricanes … There are a number of works concerning the Sun–Earth connections and their influence on atmospheric motions. There are a number of observations which show that within a few days after energetic solar eruptions (flares, coronal mass ejections and eruptive prominences), there are diverse meteorological responses of considerable strength (Gomes et al. 2012). … Conclusion: [T]here are several indications which are in favor that the beginning of violent cyclonic motions in Earth’s atmosphere may be caused by charged particles from the solar wind.”


These are just two excerpts.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:42 pm to
Hard to believe that giant ball of burning gas could have something to do with climate.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:43 pm to
But how can we make money off the solar cycle?
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:45 pm to
So once we can use the solar patterns to start predicting heavier hurricane seasons... the left should stfu about man made cc, right?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:46 pm to
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But how can we make money off the solar cycle?



Easy. You push this info at people, ignoring the disturbing standard deviation since humans started mass producing machines, and deregulate and pollute without fines!
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:46 pm to
Too bad libs will never take this in
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:46 pm to
Site looks legit
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:54 pm to
Touché

But who are we charging?

I like how it's only "pushing info" when it's info you don't like.

I'm not a denier of co2 emissions having an effect on the environment, I'm even for reducing emissions.
What I'm against is the pure racket the left has turned it into, lining their pockets along the way. Overstating its effect, denying other influences, fear mongering, and investing in areas they then give advantages through legislation
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted by PepeSilvia
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:59 pm to
Principia Scientific... Come on man.

I'll look it over, but seriously the site has an express purpose of, as their book calls it, "Slaying the Sky Dragon".
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:59 pm to
BAN THE SUN!
Posted by PepeSilvia
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:01 pm to
Oh Captain...My Captain.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:01 pm to
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BAN THE ASSAULT SUN!


FIFY
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:13 pm to
I
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But how can we make money off the solar cycle?



We all know what sin taxes are, but the Dems will come up with Sun taxes given half a chance.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:19 pm to
Remember when AleGore was the hero of the left when he proclaimed that tge 2005 hurricane season would be the new normal.

You'd think that these f*cking morons would sit back and question why NONE of his doom and gloom predictions came true. But NOPE, they're just doubling down on AleGore stupidity.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

like how it's only "pushing info" when it's info you don't like.



I agree. I believe both are true.

quote:

But who are we charging? 



I dont understand the question, forgive me. Are you asking how people would benefit by denying co2 emmision caused climate change?
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:33 pm to
Site looks fair and balanced.




Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:34 pm to
The new information will cause problems for my carbon credit crony capitalistic wealth redistribution scheme.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:34 pm to
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I dont understand the question, forgive me. Are you asking how people would benefit by denying co2 emmision caused climate change?


No I see how people could benefit, I meant who would they be charging and restricting to do so.

Solar or clean energy would still be pursued and not restricted in any way. Oil and gas would just be less restricted as well.

My issue with the green agenda is the same people who invest in clean energy use bias and propaganda to push legislation requiring green energy by killing the alternative. I can't trust they aren't pushing and overstating an agenda while denying studies showing alternative reasoning.

If they really cared about the environment not just controlling the US energy market they would get tough on china, who doubles our carbon footprint, which the Paris accords do not.

Ideally I'd like to see all factors and each ones level of contribution to climate changes, there are to many agendas from every angle to know what is really the culprit.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 11:49 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:37 pm to
Trump will get no apology tho
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

Principia Scientific... Come on man.

I'll look it over, but seriously the site has an express purpose of, as their book calls it, "Slaying the Sky Dragon".



Hey man, I hear you. However, I'm calling the papers cited, not the actual article into discussion. The site can frick off if it cares to.
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