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2 failed moon landings (south side issues...)

Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:41 pm
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/597631/

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A Second Failed Moon Landing
India lost contact with its spacecraft just before touchdown. Why is it so hard to stick a lunar landing?

MARINA KOREN
SEP 7, 2019



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The latest attempt to land on the moon may have failed this week, after an Indian spacecraft—an uncrewed, robotic mission—appeared to have potentially crashed. The Chandrayaan-2 mission, developed and launched by India’s space agency, began orbiting the moon in August and released a lander yesterday. Mission Control lost contact with the lander, named Vikram, as it neared the surface. Indian officials have not yet announced the cause of the failure.



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Landsman would know. In April, his own lunar mission smashed into pieces on the surface. Like Vikram, the Beresheet lander, built by the Israeli nonprofit group SpaceIL, stopped calling home just before it was supposed to touch down. The only successful attempt this year was made in January, when China landed a spacecraft, with rover included, on the far side of the moon, the face that never turns toward Earth—a world first.


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Chandrayaan, Sanskrit for “moon craft,” launched in July, poised to make India only the fourth country to land something on the moon, after the United States, China, and the former Soviet Union. A decade earlier, the Chandrayaan-1 mission delivered an orbiter carrying a probe that was deliberately crashed into the surface as a test run. This time, the orbiter would deploy a lander and rover for a gentle landing. They were bound for the side of the moon that we can see, to a spot near its south pole, a place other spacefaring nations, including the United States, are eyeing for its potentially numerous reservoirs of frozen water—an indispensable resource for a future moon base.


See info below about the South side...

We are not supposed to see what is there...

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https://www.foxnews.com/science/vikram-moon-lander-anxious-wait.amp

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MOONPublished September 09, 2019 Last Update 4 hrs ago

Vikram Moon lander: The anxious wait for a signal from lunar surface

By James Rogers | Fox News


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Scientists in India are attempting to make contact with the Vikram probe after its nerve-wracking descent to the surface of the moon last week.

The Indian Space Research Organization lost contact with the uncrewed probe when it was in the final stage of an audacious moon-landing attempt Friday.

However, K Sivan, chairman of the Indian Space Research Organization, confirmed Sunday that the lander had been spotted. He told the Times of India that the space agency's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter has spotted Vikram on the lunar service. ISRO is analyzing the data, he said.

INDIA FINDS MISSING VIKRAM PROBE ON THE SURFACE OF THE MOON

"It must have been a hard landing," The Press Trust of India news agency quoted Sivan as saying Sunday.


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Communication with the unmanned lander was lost when it was just 1.3 miles from the lunar surface.

“All the systems and sensors of the Lander functioned excellently until this point
and proved many new technologies such as variable thrust propulsion technology used in the Lander,” said ISRO, in a statement Saturday.


However, it is not yet clear what damage the lander suffered during its descent. The U.S., Russia and China are the only other countries to have successfully landed on the moon.
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:42 pm to
https://www.cnet.com/news/mysterious-mass-of-moon-metal-discovered-under-lunar-south-pole/

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Mysterious mass of moon metal discovered under lunar south pole
NASA wants to send astronauts in 5 years to check out the area. They may want to bring metal detectors.

BY
ERIC MACK
JUNE 12, 2019 9:36 AM PDT


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Scientists say there's something unusual and metallic buried beneath the moon's south pole. No, it isn't a lost lunar Atlantis built by ancient aliens, but more likely the remnant of a colossal collision that formed the largest crater in the solar system.

"Imagine taking a pile of metal five times larger than the Big Island of Hawaii and burying it underground. That's roughly how much unexpected mass we detected," said Peter B. James, assistant professor of planetary geophysics at Baylor University, in a release.

A team of researchers led by James analyzed gravity data for the moon from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory (GRAIL) mission and cross-referenced it with lunar topography from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter to find the surprising mass hundreds of miles beneath the moon's South Pole-Aitken basin.

The basin near the bottom of our sole natural satellite is an oval-shaped crater several miles deep and up to 1,242 miles (2,000 kilometers) wide. If you're wondering why you may not have seen it before, that's because it's on the moon's far side.





https://www.earthfiles.com/2019/06/11/huge-mysterious-gravity-anomaly-discovered-on-moons-dark-side/

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JUNE 11, 2019 © 2019
BY LINDA MOULTON HOWE

Huge, Mysterious Gravity Anomaly Discovered On Moon’s Dark Side — Like Wilkes Land Magnetic Anomaly in Antarctica?


Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:44 pm to
Struggling to land on moon in 2019 yet we did it in 1969?

Moon landing faked fo sho
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:45 pm to
They need to scrap the phone apps and go back to the slide rule to get these landings done right!
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:47 pm to
Stupid question and I've only just realized this: does the moon not rotate on an axis? why not?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:49 pm to

I believe the Russians were going to build the landing craft for them and then the ISRO made the decision to build it themselves.

Apparently, the Indians put more thought and funding into the orbiter than the lander.

They were clapping up a storm until the last second glitch. I felt bad for them.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Stupid question and I've only just realized this: does the moon not rotate on an axis? why not?

Tidal lock
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:51 pm to
Indo-Aryans are trying to reclaim the underground Nazi lunar facility where V2 rockets are being held.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:51 pm to
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Why is it so hard to stick a lunar landing?



Others are failing at landing uncrewed robotics on the moon but the US landed men there 50 years ago and brought them back to Earth on the first try . Yea sure they did .
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Navajo61490
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:51 pm to
Are we just littering the moon with space junk now???
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:55 pm to
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We are not supposed to see what is there...



I can tell you what's there. Moon rocks and moon dust. That's what's there.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Yea sure they did .


Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:58 pm to
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I can tell you what's there. Moon rocks and moon dust. That's what's there.



That and Jimmy Hoffa.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:05 pm to
M..o..o..n.....that spells moon.
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:17 pm to
The Nazis are shooting them down.

Posted by SSpaniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Stupid question and I've only just realized this: does the moon not rotate on an axis? why not?


Not stupid. I didn't know why this was either.
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:33 pm to
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axis


See? Told you. Nazis.
Posted by Numberwang
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:38 pm to
Landing on the Moon is a white people thing.

Serves these Indians right for trying to appropriate my culture.

frick them.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Stupid question and I've only just realized this: does the moon not rotate on an axis? why not?


It does rotate, but the time it takes to rotate equals the time it takes to orbit the earth. Thus, the same side faces earth at all times.
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