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re: 12 hours until December unemployment and jobs reports - guesses?

Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:05 pm to
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And we're on more sound footing now than we were then. Or do you disagree with that?


Are you sure about that? We have an administration that can hang its hat on job numbers only be severely skewing them, economic policies that are forcing businesses to hire fewer full-time folks and no way out of the bone-crushing debt that keeps accruing. If we're better off now, it's not by much and a lot of it is smoke and mirrors.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:08 pm to
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If you want to look at participation rates as the only metric of the economy be my guest
I have in no way suggested that. Nor has anyone else that I recall.

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And we're on more sound footing now than we were then. Or do you disagree with that?
Somewhat. We've done a historic job of re inflating the bubbles. Avoids the short-term pain. But isn't the road to prosperity.
Posted by Jarlaxle
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:08 pm to
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And we're on more sound footing now than we were then.


How?

Posted by SettleDown
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:11 pm to
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That chart is interesting. So, retirees are getting back in to the work force, but why? Probably because they need to supplement their retirement or maybe boredom. But I think there is another reason. That is, businesses cannot find qualified people to do the jobs experienced folks can do and they are being called back to the workforce and some are accepting.
I think you are misinterpreting what is happening in that chart. I dint think the rising 65 and older number represents people returning to the workforce. I think it represents fewer people aging into that bracket choosing to leave the workforce. In other words, there are people not retiring than previously would have been the case.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:15 pm to
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If we're better off now, it's not by much and a lot of it is smoke and mirrors.


I suppose if you were 63 and had a couple million in your retirement account it might seem very real to you.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:26 pm to
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I think you are misinterpreting what is happening in that chart. I dint think the rising 65 and older number represents people returning to the workforce. I think it represents fewer people aging into that bracket choosing to leave the workforce. In other words, there are people not retiring than previously would have been the case.



I can buy that.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 1/11/14 at 3:42 pm to
So I was the closest? What did I win? Also didnt the market drop... so I was right when I said short.

what I win ??
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