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1992 LSU Tigers - Basketball - One of the Most Talented/Experienced Ever?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:37 am
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:37 am
After watching the Shaq and Dale documentary last night, I started thinking about the other two teams that Shaq was on at LSU after the 1990 season when Chris Jackson and Stanley Roberts left. That year was always seen as the wasted season because that team was so insanely talented and did not get past the second round in the NCAA tournament. But, when you look at it, the 1991-92 team might have been even better, at least talent wise.
Here are the top 10 players on that team:
1992 LSU Basketball
C Shaquille O'Neal - JR - 7-1 294
PF Harold Boudreaux - SR - 6-9 232
SF Vernel Singleton - SR - 6-7 210
SG Mike Hansen - JR - 6-1 183
PG TJ Pugh - SR - 6-0 177
C Geert Hamminck - JR - 7-0 264
F Lenear Burns - Soph 6-7 226
F Clarence Caesar - FR - 6-7 205
G Jamie Brandon - Soph 6-4 205
G Maurice Williamson - JR 6-0 179
Shaq was a JR and was completely dominant. "Hack a Shaq" had its effect and the season was just frustrating. The team went 21-10 and 12-4 in the SEC with a ridiculous out of conference schedule against a slew of really tough teams like UNLV, Arizona, Louisville, and Duke, losing all 4 of those games.
Harold Boudreaux had a good inside/out game and was a strong PF who could shoot 3s.
Vernel Singleton was one of the best SFs that I have ever seen at LSU over the course of his career.
Mike Hansen was deadly from outside and could score very effectively.
TJ Pugh was a pretty good SR point guard.
The entire starting 5 was either JRs or SRs.
And, the bench was really good, starting with Geert Hamminck who could give Shaq a rest and also come in to provide even more size down low.
Jamie Brandon was the Illinois HS player of the year and was very talented.
Maurice Williamson rejoined the team and was a quick guard with good shooting/ball handling skills. He was the starting SG on the 1990 team.
Clarence Caesar and Lenear Burns added good front court depth.
I would LOVE to have this roster today. Yes, they played a really tough schedule, but the fact that THAT team did not peform better than it did should go down as a major disappointment in LSU sports history.
I was in high school, but I just remember the team seeming tired and worn out all season long. They never could hit their stride and it seemed that the loss to Georgia Tech two seasons earlier just left a cloud over the program. They had Shaq but could never get over the hump and really beat anyone of note.
Very talented team that never put it together. Shaq was great, but we forget that he didn't win his first NBA title until 8 years later in 2000 with the Lakers after Kobe arrived. Maybe focusing on him too much was the problem.
Also, I LOVED Dale Brown. Still do. But, his coaching ability really has to be questioned here.
The 92 team was the end of an era in LSU basketball. Just wish it could have ended stronger.
Here are the top 10 players on that team:
1992 LSU Basketball
C Shaquille O'Neal - JR - 7-1 294
PF Harold Boudreaux - SR - 6-9 232
SF Vernel Singleton - SR - 6-7 210
SG Mike Hansen - JR - 6-1 183
PG TJ Pugh - SR - 6-0 177
C Geert Hamminck - JR - 7-0 264
F Lenear Burns - Soph 6-7 226
F Clarence Caesar - FR - 6-7 205
G Jamie Brandon - Soph 6-4 205
G Maurice Williamson - JR 6-0 179
Shaq was a JR and was completely dominant. "Hack a Shaq" had its effect and the season was just frustrating. The team went 21-10 and 12-4 in the SEC with a ridiculous out of conference schedule against a slew of really tough teams like UNLV, Arizona, Louisville, and Duke, losing all 4 of those games.
Harold Boudreaux had a good inside/out game and was a strong PF who could shoot 3s.
Vernel Singleton was one of the best SFs that I have ever seen at LSU over the course of his career.
Mike Hansen was deadly from outside and could score very effectively.
TJ Pugh was a pretty good SR point guard.
The entire starting 5 was either JRs or SRs.
And, the bench was really good, starting with Geert Hamminck who could give Shaq a rest and also come in to provide even more size down low.
Jamie Brandon was the Illinois HS player of the year and was very talented.
Maurice Williamson rejoined the team and was a quick guard with good shooting/ball handling skills. He was the starting SG on the 1990 team.
Clarence Caesar and Lenear Burns added good front court depth.
I would LOVE to have this roster today. Yes, they played a really tough schedule, but the fact that THAT team did not peform better than it did should go down as a major disappointment in LSU sports history.
I was in high school, but I just remember the team seeming tired and worn out all season long. They never could hit their stride and it seemed that the loss to Georgia Tech two seasons earlier just left a cloud over the program. They had Shaq but could never get over the hump and really beat anyone of note.
Very talented team that never put it together. Shaq was great, but we forget that he didn't win his first NBA title until 8 years later in 2000 with the Lakers after Kobe arrived. Maybe focusing on him too much was the problem.
Also, I LOVED Dale Brown. Still do. But, his coaching ability really has to be questioned here.
The 92 team was the end of an era in LSU basketball. Just wish it could have ended stronger.
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:42 am to AlaTiger
89-90 was the best team and it's not even close.
Chris, Shaq and Stanley. That was the only year they were all together. It also had Maurice Williamson and Vernel Singleton. I wanna say it was Wayne Sims' senior year too. Harold Boudreaux's first year too, I believe. Geert was there too, but he was not very good yet.
Chris, Shaq and Stanley. That was the only year they were all together. It also had Maurice Williamson and Vernel Singleton. I wanna say it was Wayne Sims' senior year too. Harold Boudreaux's first year too, I believe. Geert was there too, but he was not very good yet.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:45 am to lsutigers1992
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89-90 was the best team and it's not even close.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:52 am to UserName69
It really wasn't that long. Every sentence is its own paragraph to make it easier for you. And, I provide a description of each player so you can analyze the roster more easily.
I basically spoon fed you the whole post.
Admit it. You are kinda lazy when it comes to this.
I basically spoon fed you the whole post.
Admit it. You are kinda lazy when it comes to this.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:57 am to AlaTiger
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I would LOVE to have this roster today. Yes, they played a really tough schedule, but the fact that THAT team did not peform better than it did should go down as a major disappointment in LSU sports history.
I was in high school, but I just remember the team seeming tired and worn out all season long. They never could hit their stride and it seemed that the loss to Georgia Tech two seasons earlier just left a cloud over the program. They had Shaq but could never get over the hump and really beat anyone of note.
Shaq in the documentary said that the team got the big head when they noticed themselves in the Top 10. on that 1992 team.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:59 am to lsutigers1992
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89-90 was the best team and it's not even close.
Are you talking about while Shaquille was there or 'ever?' If ever, heck yea "its close" and debatable at that. Take a look at the 1979-1980 and the 1980-1981 teams.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:28 am to lsutigers1992
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89-90 was the best team and it's not even close.
92 Shaq was more dominant than anyone on the 90 team.
Chris Jackson was great, but it seemed that his whole identity was in him scoring all of the time. He didn't really make the TEAM better.
Add 2 Seven Footers who are dominating? Sure. I'll keep trying to score 40 points each night.
That was part of what killed that team, in my opinion.
The 1992 team had a chance to be a better TEAM overall, but I wonder if building it completely around Shaq kept the team from being as good as it could have been.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:07 am to AlaTiger
college basketball back then was just incredible. Today's game is a shadow of what it once was.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:49 am to Camp Randall
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college basketball back then was just incredible. Today's game is a shadow of what it once was.
Yep. Without doubt. I noticed that last night watching part of the LSU-Ga Tech game in 1990. The talent on the court between those two teams was just sick. And that was a 4 vs. a 5 seed.
Think of the UNLV and Duke teams.
Most players who went early would stay through to their Junior year and then go.
Chris Jackson was something of an exception when he went early. Last night in the documentary, Dale Brown said that he was surprised to hear that CJ and Stanley Roberts were not coming back - that they had depended on those two guys returning.
No one would expect that today.
Everyone who says that the NBA is so much better today than it was back then has to explain how that can be when college basketball is a shadow of what it once was and these guys don't get a chance to develop anymore by actually playing the game. Sure, there is great talent, but I do not think that it translates into great team basketball.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:55 am to Camp Randall
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college basketball back then was just incredible. Today's game is a shadow of what it once was.
Another team nobody has mentioned is Arkansas in 1992
They had our number Todd Day, Lee Mayberry and Big O Oliver.
I'm trying to think was Corliss on the roster yet?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:06 pm to AlaTiger
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Everyone who says that the NBA is so much better today than it was back then has to explain how that can be when college basketball is a shadow of what it once was and these guys don't get a chance to develop anymore by actually playing the game.
I haven't heard anyone legit say the NBA today is better. It's slid just as much as college bball. There is no development, there is no connection from college to the pros anymore. This early entry garbage has ruined it. It's a shame.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:19 pm to LSU9102
Yes, those Arkansas teams during that period up till around 1996 were incredible as well.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:23 pm to dagrippa
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I haven't heard anyone legit say the NBA today is better.
The MSB has this debate about every 2-3 weeks (it seems like) during basketball season. The younger guys say that the NBA today is so much better than it used to be and older guys laugh and say there is no way.
The younger guys then accuse the older guys of being nostalgic and not knowing what they are talking about, which is hilarious.
Younger guys who never saw basketball before 2000 are telling guys who watched both eras that they don't know what they are talking about. Whatever. It is so stupid.
Basketball began to fall off dramatically in the late 90s with every good player going pro out of high school. It has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has everything to do with these guys not developing by actually playing competitive games that mean something. The NBA tried to fix it with the "one year" rule, but it hasn't really helped.
The NBA should do what the NFL does and say you have to be 3 years out of high school before they will take you. That would solve everything and restore the college game to meaning. It would make the NBA much better too, because you would have guys coming in who could actually play the game and not just be a AAU superstar.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:25 pm to LSU9102
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Another team nobody has mentioned is Arkansas in 1992 They had our number Todd Day, Lee Mayberry and Big O Oliver. I'm trying to think was Corliss on the roster yet?
As the documentary showed in the old footage, the '92 game at Arkansas was a screw-job. Oneal went up for a game winning layup at the buzzer and was clobbered by two different guys with no call. Game goes to OT and the Hogs win. That game was one of those last nails in the coffin for Shaq's college career. He took an unmerciful pounding, often with no fouls called. The SEC administration was shamed by much of the national media for their handling of the situation, especially for the absurdity that occurred in the SEC tournament. Williamson was not on that '02 team as I recall.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:33 pm to AlaTiger
That team was very one dimensional. Shaq is one of the best centers ever. The rest of the guys on the 1992 team were average. Brandon was solid but never lived up to his lofty expectations. The 1980 team with Macklin, Scales, Carter, Cook, Sims and Martin was a little deeper than the 1981 team but I think both were better teams (all things considered) than the 1992 team. I'd also include the 1990 and 1986 team (especially since I'd include N. Wilson) ahead of the 1992 team.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:11 pm to AlaTiger
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The NBA should do what the NFL does and say you have to be 3 years out of high school before they will take you. That would solve everything and restore the college game to meaning. It would make the NBA much better too, because you would have guys coming in who could actually play the game and not just be a AAU superstar.
Do you realize that guys would just go overseas with this rule?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 4:01 pm to c on z
At this point, I say it's worth a try. I don't think we'd see as many guys going overseas as you might think. There will be some loss. However, there's still an allure to the college game. I also think it would bring some much needed stability to the college game and a better product.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:47 pm to lsutigers1992
I have autographed team picture of 89-90 best collection of players imo
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:49 pm to AlaTiger
1990 team.
Shaq, CJ, Stanley, Maurice.
1992 wasn’t even close.
Shaq, CJ, Stanley, Maurice.
1992 wasn’t even close.
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