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re: History Topic: Did R.E. Lee Betray His Countrymen?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:21 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:21 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:21 am to fouldeliverer
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Yes, he did betray his countrymen. When he resigned from the U.S. Army and decided to fight for the treasonous inveterates fighting to keep the evil institution of slavery he betrayed his country.
Or he decided that his home state was more important to him than the US government.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:22 am to VanCleef
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This is the correct answer.
No. And you are a fricking idiot.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:25 am to weagle99
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The South also needed Stonewall Jackson to keep living.
Just finished a book on Jackson. He was quite an enigma, but brilliant no doubt.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:25 am to fouldeliverer
Traitors gonna trait.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:45 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Yes, when he commited treason by joining the confederacy.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:01 am to Placebeaux
He left the U.S. Army to join a foreign, enemy force. That is treason- whether you like it or not.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:07 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Yes, he did betray his countrymen. When he resigned from the U.S. Army and decided to fight for the treasonous inveterates fighting to keep the evil institution of slavery he betrayed his country.
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Or he decided that his home state was more important to him than the US government.
Or he chose his state, which banded together with other states and formed a foreign country that took up arms against the U.S. a bald faced act of treason. And for those who think it wasn't about slavery, why did the CSA draft a constitution the same as the U.S. version, except it guaranteed the right to own slaves.
People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:28 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
He did the right and honorable considering the situation.. They had no supplies and while a guerrilla war would've certainly extended the war, it also would've resulted in the destruction of south completely with the same result.. Lee was at his heart, fighting for Virginia and the destruction that would've resulted would have destroyed what he believed in.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:43 am to VanCleef
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He left the U.S. Army to join a foreign, enemy force. That is treason- whether you like it or not.
Both sides were being played by Rothschild. The Russians stopped the British invasion. Lincoln refused to pay his debt to Rothschild so they shot him.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:52 am to VanCleef
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And for those who think it wasn't about slavery, why did the CSA draft a constitution the same as the U.S. version, except it guaranteed the right to own slaves.
The CSA was mostly about limiting special interest by eliminating the general fund clause. So certain areas of the country didn't have to pay for other areas.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:57 am to GeorgeTheGreek
And what right were the seceded states most concerned about?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:00 pm to fouldeliverer
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And what right were the seceded states most concerned about?
Not being screwed over economically by the industrial North for one.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:01 pm to VanCleef
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Or he chose his state, which banded together with other states and formed a foreign country that took up arms against the U.S. a bald faced act of treason.
So George Washington committed treason also, right?
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:03 pm to pensacola
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Would Lincoln have died five days later?
Probably, the plot to kill him was already planned and ready to be executed. Mary Todd Lincoln bought the tickets to relieve Lincoln's stress and that stress would have been bigger if Lee was going to the mountains (Lincoln feared a guerrilla war because he knew the north's sentiment would turn).
It probably would have been worse since the other conspirators probably would not have gotten cold feet or got too drunk to carry out the plot if they thought there was still a chance. Imagine the chaos if the conspirators assasinated everyone that they were suppose to.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:04 pm to fouldeliverer
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Yes, he did betray his countrymen. When he resigned from the U.S. Army and decided to fight for the treasonous inveterates fighting to keep the evil institution of slavery he betrayed his country.
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With all my devotion to the Union and the feeling of loyalty and duty of an American citizen, I have not been able to make up my mind to raise my hand against my relatives, my children, my home. I have therefore resigned my commission in the Army, and save in defense of my native State, with the sincere hope that my poor services may never be needed, I hope I may never be called on to draw my sword...
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:04 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Don't let the revisionist history fool you. The war was about slavery at its core. There were several issues but once you stripe them to their source, the issue was slavery. When it became such an argument that the government got stalled over these compromises, the writing was on the wall.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:07 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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History Topic: Did R.E. Lee Betray His Countrymen?
No, he did the sensible thing that gave his "countrymen" the best possible outcome. If he had gone guerilla the best outcome would have been the states rejoining the union, but keeping slavery due to the north getting tired of a vietnam type situation in the South. There probably be massive riots am ong the slave populations and in northern cities. Then the Civil War would break out a few years later because the slavery issue had not been settled. The worst possible outcome is Yankee army adopts Sherman's scorced earth campaign across the entire south. Lee did the right thing.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:12 pm to athenslife101
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Don't let the revisionist history fool you. The war was about slavery at its core. There were several issues but once you stripe them to their source, the issue was slavery. When it became such an argument that the government got stalled over these compromises, the writing was on the wall.
LOL
Posted on 4/12/15 at 12:14 pm to fouldeliverer
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Yes, he did betray his countrymen. When he resigned from the U.S. Army and decided to fight for the treasonous inveterates fighting to keep the evil institution of slavery he betrayed his country.
This. I have zero respect for the man.
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