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The ending of Birdman (spoilers duh)

Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:16 pm
Enjoyed the movie, not as much as Whiplash though.

So is he dead on the street and the daughter is just crazy/high or is he flying?
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 9:17 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:20 pm to
Everyone arguing seems to know for certain. Roll eyes.

Some say he died on the stage and the hospital is the last pistons of his brain firing.

Some say he died on the street and his daughter cracked when she looked down.

Others think that since he finally got the respect he fought so hard to get, the weight of the world lifted away and he flew away.

I go with the last one even though it is a shitty end.

She looked down and clearly saw nothing. There was NO reaction.

Hell, when she looked up, she might have been looking off at a fire escape with him running up.

He was hallucinating the whole movie, but even when he jumped from the building earlier, he didn't die so I just find it hard to believe he jumped and died at the end.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 9:21 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:21 pm to
It's up to the viewer to decide.

I think he did die and Emma Stone realized he was doing what he wanted and she accepted it.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35273 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

So is he dead on the street and the daughter is just crazy/high or is he flying?
What I think, he died. and she's just as batshit as he is. I think her looking up at the sky at him was a representation of that and it showed how much like her father she really was.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:36 pm to
I just don't see how anyone can think that.

He jumped off a building before without dying. I also don't get at any point that his daughter is crazy. She has literally NO reaction looking down but then reacts looking up.

Just think some of you guys are killjoys and wanted him dead.

And that's coming from me.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35273 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:41 pm to
I just think the movie is made not to be taken literally in some moments. I can definitely see how people can have many different interpretations, though.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39205 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:43 pm to
I like to believe he literally flew away.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:46 pm to
Why? His character always survived his fantasy bullshite throughout the film. Why would it change suddenly at the end?

There is no basis for this throughout the entire film, yet then at the end you want him to have died. And your belief only works based on another last second caveat that his daughter suddenly goes insane without showing any signs of insanity before that last moment.

She was a weed smoking teen bitch from hell, but she wasn't insane. She still had the clarity of mind to see that she went too far when she tore her dad a new ahole.

Ocam's razor my friend.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 10:06 pm
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

What I think, he died. and she's just as batshit as he is. I think her looking up at the sky at him was a representation of that and it showed how much like her father she really was.


I think we're supposed to believe that for whatever reason he actually flew away, and his daughter was pumped he was actually flying away. It's a completely empty, unearned ending that invalidates the entire movie.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:20 pm to
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It's a completely empty, unearned ending that invalidates the entire movie.

I still liked the movie a lot up to that point. When Emma eviscerates him, that is a heck of an acting job.

The movie should have just ended in the hospital. The guy put everything he had on the line and against the odds he created a real moment which got him the accolades he always wanted. End.

But no, we got to get cute and have him fly off unburdened by his doubts.

I'd still watch it again. I would just turn it off when it should have ended.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:31 pm to
I thought the ending was pretty good. Dude flies off, his daughter finally loves him. It brilliantly mixed reality and fantasy in my opinion. It shouldn't be that hard of a stretch. Most of the characters were all caricatures already. In the end, he really is a piece of shite superhero...superheroes can be pieces of shite.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

I still liked the movie a lot up to that point. When Emma eviscerates him, that is a heck of an acting job.


The movie's really pretty great up until the last shot. It would've even been fine, and made sense, to just have him fly away. Once his daughter acknowledges he literally flies away, it makes zero sense.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:45 pm to
I actually choose to believe he was running up a fire escape although the angle makes that doubtful but...since many people just made crap up in how they interpreted the ending, that is the one I made up.

Just back up to his normal delusional hijinks.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:47 pm to
Are we really talking about "sense"? What in the Avengers made "sense"? What in Game Of Thrones makes "sense"? You can blend fantasy and reality. That's what makes it a movie and not real life. There are no rules.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20721 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:49 pm to
He was a hell of a shot to only hit his nose pointing the gun sideways away from his head with his non dominant hand. The recoil alone on a handgun of the caliber would have made the shot hard.

I say he killed himself or was in a coma on the stage and the rest was his dreaming or his way of going to the afterlife
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10965 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

He was a hell of a shot to only hit his nose pointing the gun sideways away from his head with his non dominant hand. The recoil alone on a handgun of the caliber would have made the shot hard.

I say he killed himself or was in a coma on the stage and the rest was his dreaming or his way of going to the afterlife


You really think the writer was thinking that hard about ballistics?

The movie made it a point that fantasy was enmeshed into the story. Homeboy literally flew away. It was deus ex machina, plain and simple. It was entirely supposed to be ridiculous.
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