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re: Legislative session starts April 13. People who love LSU need to pay attention.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:54 am to WeeWee
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:54 am to WeeWee
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LSU's budget relies more on state funding than other states
Flagship universities receive far more than 13% of their overall budget from government. It wasn't long ago that LSU received a majority of their funding from government, but past budget cuts have forced them to raise tuition (which has increased 50%+ from what it pre-cuts) and cut programs. To get to where they are, they had to let people go and cut programs offered.
It's kinda sad that people are more focused on seeing what LSU can lose to get on by rather than improving the university as a whole. Increasing the price to attend + decreasing the value of the product aren't two things to combine together.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:55 am to el Gaucho
But I won't ever learn to write a properly structured poem if there are no English classes...
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:58 am to Slippy
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This will never happen as long as the legislature maintains its control over tuition. They are unable or unwilling to fund higher ed on the one hand, and unwilling to allow schools to raise tuition on the other.
Your plan goes nowhere as long as politicians are in charge.
Well that shows how uninformed you are. Louisiana passed a bill in 2010 that allowed universitys to raise tuition and fees by 10%/yr without legislative approval and are currently seeking the authority to do so with tuition. LSU is notorious for the amount of fees it charges. It charges fees instead of tuition because fess are not covered by TOPS so they don't have to have state approval.
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The law builds on last year’s LA GRAD Act that allows colleges to hike tuition costs by up to 10 percent a year if they agree to meet certain performance goals. The 2.0 legislation does not allow for any additional tuition hikes.
So LSU is looking at losing ~8% of its budget and it can legally raise tuition by 10% /yr without approval. Whats the problem again?
Link to other claim
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:10 am to oauron
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Flagship universities receive far more than 13% of their overall budget from government. It wasn't long ago that LSU received a majority of their funding from government, but past budget cuts have forced them to raise tuition (which has increased 50%+ from what it pre-cuts) and cut programs. To get to where they are, they had to let people go and cut programs offered.
Tuition in the LSU system is still anywhere from 20-33% cheaper than the national average. Is LSU educating students at a cheaper cost? No, the taxpayers are picking up a bigger piece and now we can't afford it. Why shouldn't LSU rely more on funds it generates itself and less on political gridlock in the state capital?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:11 am to Slippy
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and I invite you to compare LSU's budget with that of its SEC peers. While higher education is in trouble nationally, nobody -- NOBODY -- has had to endure the economic gutting that LSU has under Jindal.
I live over in Birmingham now, and you sure don't hear of budget cuts for education in Alabama. If anything they are pumping more money into the schools.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:19 am to PurpGold 14-0
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No we don't. There's enough useless underperforming universities in Louisiana that need to be shut down and that would close this deficit.
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But they won't do this
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:22 am to elprez00
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If LSU has to shut down ans cancel all their classes over a 7-10% budget cut, then they are doing it wrong. Sorry.
Lot of 6-figure salaries
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:26 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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To be honest, one of the first things they need to take up this session is to change the state constitution that will allow the governor to cut other public servies outside of higher education and health care. It's stupid to me that those are the only two areas the governor is allow to touch during times of hardship. All services using public funds should be at the governor's disposal.
Right on!
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:27 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:27 am to Slippy
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:29 am to Slippy
Even the worst case scenario isn't crippling or even that damaging. Only around 12% of LSU's funding comes from the legislature. The worst case scenario has that falling to only 3%. That means that the worst case scenario is that LSU receives a 9% cut to its budget. Remember, LSU isn't just the university, it's also the largest hospital system in the state. All of this "sky is falling" bull shite is just scare tactics to prevent funding being cut so that they don't have to consolidate redundant administrative positions.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:32 am to oauron
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Flagship universities receive far more than 13% of their overall budget from government. It wasn't long ago that LSU received a majority of their funding from government,
Why is this a bad thing? Shouldn't we want our schools to operate in such a way that they dont need state funding?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:35 am to elprez00
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State funding makes up 13% of LSU's budget.
I don't know where you got that figure from but its wrong.
Its well over 30%
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:35 am to prince of fools
Ok
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:39 am to prince of fools
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I don't know where you got that figure from but its wrong.
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Alexander says state funding makes up 13.6 percent of LSU's overall budget
From the mouth of the University President.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:44 am to elprez00
The one thing that rubs me wrong about this whole situation is that the University President isn't being held accountable at all. His job is certainly to advocate for funding but it is also to do the best with what he has and not just run around screaming that the sky is falling. His job is that of a large company CEO.
Can you imagine if a company CEO went to his Board and said: "Revenue is down this year so we should just close the doors." How quick would they show that guy the door?
Can you imagine if a company CEO went to his Board and said: "Revenue is down this year so we should just close the doors." How quick would they show that guy the door?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:44 am to Fishwater
LSU homers like to make from of gumps...but look that that portfolio...
Page 43...not only that but 28,588 acres of timberland (page 42)
Page 43...not only that but 28,588 acres of timberland (page 42)
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:44 am to elprez00
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If that happens, LSU could be on the hook for more than $60 million, roughly 40 percent of the university's operating budget.
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Alexander says state funding makes up 13.6 percent of LSU's overall budget, a figure that falls to 6 percent should the funding cut, as currently outlined, be implemented.
What's up with these contradictory quotes?
I remember the budget cuts 4 years ago. A lot of programs were gutted and many students got screwed over. The languages department took an especially large hit
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:46 am to prince of fools
Operating =/= overall.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:46 am to Slippy
quote:legalize it
It is easily the most important session in history as it concerns the future of LSU. Pay attention. Make some noise.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:48 am to Slippy
Budget cuts made multiple out of state scholarships unavailable the year I tried to transfer to LSU. What the hell is going on down there?
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